Forum Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing

View Poll Results: Who wins?
Usyk by UD/SD/MD 13 36.11%
Usyk by KO/TKO 6 16.67%
Rocky by UD/SD/MD 1 2.78%
Rocky by KO/TKO 16 44.44%
Draw / too close to call 0 0%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-20-2019, 11:00 AM #41
PRINCEKOOL PRINCEKOOL is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,388
Quoted: 954 Post(s)
Rep Power: 7
PRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond reputePRINCEKOOL has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 32,205.07
Bank: 1,382.91
Total Points: 33,587.98
Default

Rocky Marciano via Knock Out, between 6-8 rounds.

Hits Harder, has a better engine and is more physically durable.

Usyk is currently the most overrated fighter in boxing, I was never impressed with him at Cruiser-weight 'I can list many crusierweight that would of beaten him, fighters such as Carl Thompson, David Haye, Evander Holyfield all would of taken him out'.

And right now at heavyweight? I would give David Price & Derek Chisora at chance of beating him 'I truly do not rate the man, as highly as some folk within the boxing community'.

Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-20-2019 at 11:23 AM.
PRINCEKOOL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 11:16 AM #42
TonyGe TonyGe is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 9,345
Quoted: 5242 Post(s)
Rep Power: 23
TonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 99,983.41
Bank: 6,753.63
Total Points: 106,737.04
Old Teddy's depends.  Haha.  Good post. - anthonydavid11 You're a good poster and contributor to this site - desktop 0 I enjoy reading what you write - !a! wise man - !a! keep up the good work - !a! 
Remove dentures--insert into mouth - GhostofDempsey For those lonely nights when gay porn just isn't getting it up for you any more - GhostofDempsey No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by W1LL View Post
Easy win for Oleksandr Usyk.

I get the impression a lot of current BoxingScene members have no real clue about Boxing, but just pick the boxer from the past because of other old coonts' nostalgia. "Everything was better back in the day..." etc. Rocky Marciano was involved in so much corruption, fixed fights, mob-bought fights, he wouldn't stand a chance against any top Heavyweight from the 60s on. Certainly not on a level playing field with no mob interference.
Baloney. All the fights I've seen him in his opponents were fighting to win not looking for a place to fall down.
TonyGe is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 11:20 AM #43
TonyGe TonyGe is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 9,345
Quoted: 5242 Post(s)
Rep Power: 23
TonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 99,983.41
Bank: 6,753.63
Total Points: 106,737.04
Old Teddy's depends.  Haha.  Good post. - anthonydavid11 You're a good poster and contributor to this site - desktop 0 I enjoy reading what you write - !a! wise man - !a! keep up the good work - !a! 
Remove dentures--insert into mouth - GhostofDempsey For those lonely nights when gay porn just isn't getting it up for you any more - GhostofDempsey No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
Who has broken down Usyk?


Marciano could bore in on a fighter. His pouncing and angles would definitely present problems. But how many of his fights have you seen in their entirety?

Again, we already discussed this. So if you want to see what finer minds have said, go read that thread.

I am not condfident picking either man. But a lot of people overate Marciano's victories, or make him sound overly brutish and crude.

I pick Dempsey and Tunney to beat them both. And both to beat Holyfield. But Holyfield is probably too refined and resilient for Dempsey.
Dempsey was never accused of being on steroids. I really enjoyed watching Holyfield fight and admired him but there is strong circumstantial evidence he was on something.
TonyGe is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 11:26 AM #44
W1LL W1LL is offline
Éirinn go Brách
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,264
Quoted: 4318 Post(s)
Rep Power: 40
W1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond reputeW1LL has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 32,131.47
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 32,131.47
Great posting, Usyk Brother! - Tony Trick-Pony Ol Robbie. Haha - Tony Trick-Pony There's only OOONNNEE RICKY HATTON! - 1hourRun 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyGe View Post
Baloney. All the fights I've seen him in his opponents were fighting to win not looking for a place to fall down.
Do some research outside of YouTube and BoxRec.
W1LL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 11:45 AM #45
Marchegiano Marchegiano is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,815
Quoted: 1520 Post(s)
Rep Power: 17
Marchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 58,348.17
Bank: 1,342.14
Total Points: 59,690.31
Rocky Marciano ATG fighter - Freedom. Thanks for thanking me! - Terry A 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by W1LL View Post
Do some research outside of YouTube and BoxRec.
You too lazy to post any research there bubba?
Marchegiano is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 11:47 AM #46
TonyGe TonyGe is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 9,345
Quoted: 5242 Post(s)
Rep Power: 23
TonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 99,983.41
Bank: 6,753.63
Total Points: 106,737.04
Old Teddy's depends.  Haha.  Good post. - anthonydavid11 You're a good poster and contributor to this site - desktop 0 I enjoy reading what you write - !a! wise man - !a! keep up the good work - !a! 
Remove dentures--insert into mouth - GhostofDempsey For those lonely nights when gay porn just isn't getting it up for you any more - GhostofDempsey No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by W1LL View Post
Do some research outside of YouTube and BoxRec.
That a pretty weak response. Point me to something that corraborates your innuendo that his fights were fixed. He was the son of Italian immigrant's growing up in an area rife with Mafia. It was part of life in those days. Yeah he knew and associated with Mafia figures but show me proof he had his fights fixed. You can't it's all based on hearsay and guilt by association.
TonyGe is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 12:06 PM #47
TonyGe TonyGe is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 9,345
Quoted: 5242 Post(s)
Rep Power: 23
TonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond reputeTonyGe has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 99,983.41
Bank: 6,753.63
Total Points: 106,737.04
Old Teddy's depends.  Haha.  Good post. - anthonydavid11 You're a good poster and contributor to this site - desktop 0 I enjoy reading what you write - !a! wise man - !a! keep up the good work - !a! 
Remove dentures--insert into mouth - GhostofDempsey For those lonely nights when gay porn just isn't getting it up for you any more - GhostofDempsey No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll No Message - ^lll 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by W1LL View Post
Do some research outside of YouTube and BoxRec.
That's a pretty weak response. Don't use boxrec or YouTube and I will agree with you. Sorry if you are making an allegation like that you need to provide some proof. He grew up in an area where the Italian Mafia was prevalent. Not knowing someone connected was unlikely. Mobsters liked hanging around with celebrities it gave them some legitimacy or so they thought. Show me something that proves his fights were fixed. Nat Fleisher checked into his record and as far as he was concerned it was legitimate.
TonyGe is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 03:30 PM #48
Rusty Tromboni Rusty Tromboni is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,816
Quoted: 1022 Post(s)
Rep Power: 4
Rusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 52,385.45
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 52,385.45
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by W1LL View Post
Do some research outside of YouTube and BoxRec.
I actually think he gotthe nod against LaStarza because he wasn't one of their guys. It could just be that he was the aggressor. In those days, it was more like K1 or Japanese MMA. Aggression and guts often won the day.

But yeah, LaStarza was almost certainly mob'ed up. And that was a two-edged sword.

None of Marciano's championship wins were mob-won. And Moore and Walcott were at their best. But none were anywhere as good as Usyk. Even Gasiev was better.
Rusty Tromboni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 03:33 PM #49
Rusty Tromboni Rusty Tromboni is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,816
Quoted: 1022 Post(s)
Rep Power: 4
Rusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 52,385.45
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 52,385.45
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
Rocky Marciano via Knock Out, between 6-8 rounds.

Hits Harder, has a better engine and is more physically durable.

Usyk is currently the most overrated fighter in boxing, I was never impressed with him at Cruiser-weight 'I can list many crusierweight that would of beaten him, fighters such as Carl Thompson, David Haye, Evander Holyfield all would of taken him out'.

And right now at heavyweight? I would give David Price & Derek Chisora at chance of beating him 'I truly do not rate the man, as highly as some folk within the boxing community'.
Before you posted, I was on the fence. Now, based on your post, I am firmly in Usyk's camp.

I can think of a better endorsement for Usyk than your non-sense post.
Rusty Tromboni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2019, 03:35 PM #50
Rusty Tromboni Rusty Tromboni is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,816
Quoted: 1022 Post(s)
Rep Power: 4
Rusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond reputeRusty Tromboni has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 52,385.45
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 52,385.45
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyGe View Post
That's a pretty weak response. Don't use boxrec or YouTube and I will agree with you. Sorry if you are making an allegation like that you need to provide some proof. He grew up in an area where the Italian Mafia was prevalent. Not knowing someone connected was unlikely. Mobsters liked hanging around with celebrities it gave them some legitimacy or so they thought. Show me something that proves his fights were fixed. Nat Fleisher checked into his record and as far as he was concerned it was legitimate.
Marciano and Basilio weren't mob products. I think that helped them more than it hurt them.

Usually, mob fighters were paid to lose. And being mob-backed automatically made you a target of non-mob associated elements of the Boxing world.

Legs Diamond made Carnera invincible. And it actually cost him money, apparently.
Rusty Tromboni is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
beercules, check hooks, jrosales13, larryx, mayweather, new england, oleksandr usyk, pacman, rocky marciano, team vitaminas, thuggery, tyson fury

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:28 AM.