Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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Is Wladimir Klitschko the hardest punching Caucasian in boxing history?
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostNo man. That's a dude who's done some reading on how the term - the way it's commonly used in the US - originated.
He listed Wladimir Klitschko as Caucasian. He obviously meant White European. That Lparm weirdo was just looking for an argument.
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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View PostIt’s obvious the TS wasn’t speaking in historical context though.
He listed Wladimir Klitschko as Caucasian. He obviously meant White European. That Lparm weirdo was just looking for an argument.
As long as no-one really gave a fuck about the Caucasus or the folk who lived there it was probably just about excusable if a little distasteful, but now there are actually mainstream guys who come from the region using it as a synonym for 'white' is just misleading.
Forgive me, man. Just one of my pet peeves.
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Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View PostOh and people saying Vitali hit harder than Wlad are way off in my opinion. I think Vitali was a much tougher man mentally and physically but I think Wlad punched considerably harder.
I liked vitali a lot better, he was more exciting. Wlad got pretty boring after he got with steward.
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Tommy Morrison had the hardest left hook out of all white fighters and possibly anyone period. Not sure if that qualifies him for this because I think Wlads straight right hand was in the all time great league.
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostI know, and I also get that as long as meaning is conveyed satisfactorarily language has served it's purpose, but I also happen to be quite strongly of the opinion that this particular anachronism belongs in the trashbin of history.
As long as no-one really gave a fuck about the Caucasus or the folk who lived there it was probably just about excusable if a little distasteful, but now there are actually mainstream guys who come from the region using it as a synonym for 'white' is just misleading.
Forgive me, man. Just one of my pet peeves.
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Originally posted by Boxing Goat View PostTommy Morrison had the hardest left hook out of all white fighters and possibly anyone period. Not sure if that qualifies him for this because I think Wlads straight right hand was in the all time great league.
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Originally posted by el*** View PostWlad punched a lot harder at max power. Vitali wasnt a KO puncher but "heavy handed" where each shot was consistently hard. He didnt over commit, he through arm punches, so his stamina and ability to slip counters were pretty good.
I liked vitali a lot better, he was more exciting. Wlad got pretty boring after he got with steward.
I preferred Vitali myself. I don't think he cared as much as Wlad though or maybe he just deferred to him.
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Originally posted by lparm View PostCaucasians are brown also
The term is highly misused in the United States and any athnropologist will tell you that
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