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Old 10-10-2019, 03:09 PM #21
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Oh and people saying Vitali hit harder than Wlad are way off in my opinion. I think Vitali was a much tougher man mentally and physically but I think Wlad punched considerably harder.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:25 PM #22
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Tommy Morrison was a murderous puncher.
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Ruddock got airborne from Morrison shot. The uppercut Morrison landed of Mercer caused Mercer's hair to get airborne.

I've read interviews where Mercer recalls TM's punches caused the most pain he experienced in boxing.

Also agree with VK comment. Vitali was an accumulation puncher. Wlad was a massive puncher held back by fear of engaging. When he was young and didn't give AF (and suffered some big KO's because of that) his offence was a lot more flowing.

The beating Brewster was taking in their first fight really showed how much heart Brewster had but also how much pain WK could output before his china got cracked.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:31 PM #23
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The south african that beat him was a hard hitting guy as was morrison . Both give him a run for his money power wise , obviously neither could lace his gloves as a fighter tho
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Why you say he hit harder than vitali??
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:35 PM #25
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Vitali hit harder than Wlad I think... and also had a better chin.
Better chin not power
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The Kiltschko's are probably genetically not even fully caucasian 'It may have been on this website, where it was stated that they have Mongal blood within them'.

But nevertheless that is being too technical.

Another White boxer who has serious heavyweight power at his best was David Price. there was no denying that area of his game.

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Old 10-10-2019, 05:49 PM #27
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The south african that beat him was a hard hitting guy as was morrison . Both give him a run for his money power wise , obviously neither could lace his gloves as a fighter tho
That was Corrie Sanders, southpaw with big power on a short left that he had. No a great fighter gut that left carried him in fights
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:52 PM #28
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The Kiltschko's are probably genetically not even fully caucasian 'It may have been on this website, where it was stated that they have Mongal blood within them'.

But nevertheless that is being too technical.

Another White boxer who has serious heavyweight power at his best was David Price. there was no denying that area of his game.
- -Ks born in the shadow of the caucus mts.

No Mongol blood.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:54 PM #29
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What the hell is a Caucasian?
I think he means a pale skinned dude. Actual Caucasians come from the Caucasus, like Beterbiev or Nurmagomedov. The common usage of the term in the US is a weird anachronism harking back to heyday of scientific racism. Bout time mfers stopped using the term if you ask me, specially seeing as there's a growing number of actual Caucasians rising to prominence, especially in combat sports.

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Old 10-10-2019, 06:05 PM #30
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Does it? I'll take your word for it but google says otherwise.

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It was Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, a German professor of medicine and a member of the British Royal Society, and who came to be considered one of the founders of the discipline of anthropology, who gave the term a wider audience, by grounding it in the new methods of craniometry and Linnean taxonomy.[20]

Blumenbach did not credit Meiners with his taxonomy, although his justification clearly points to Meiners' aesthetic viewpoint of Caucasus origins:[21]

Caucasian variety – I have taken the name of this variety from Mount Caucasus, both because its neighborhood, and especially its southern slope, produces the most beautiful race of men, I mean the Georgian; and because all physiological reasons converge to this, that in that region, if anywhere, it seems we ought with the greatest probability to place the autochthones (original members) of mankind.[22]

Blumenbach would later assert that of the various Caucasian varieties, the Northern European type (encompassing the present-day United Kingdom, France and Scandinavia) represented the perfect form.[23]
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There's a bit more to it than that, but he's pretty close to the mark. To todays mind (I would hope) a deeply fucked up way of looking at the world, but stemming from the racial concepts of the time. The people of the Caucasus were held by some to have the most perfectly shaped heads and the most perfectly white complexions and were therefore reasoned to be the progenitors of the rest of the 'white' race... a weird mix of biblical influence and pseudo-science.

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