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  • #11
    Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY! View Post
    750ml is not permitted under any rules of NSAC.
    At the time, IV, in any amount, for any reason, was allowed under NAC rules.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      At the time, IV, in any amount, for any reason, was allowed under NAC rules.
      Do you or your friend Sillyman know if the medical based TUE for Floyd was signed by an independent doctor?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Do you or your friend Sillyman know if the medical based TUE for Floyd was signed by an independent doctor?
        https://www.usada.org/substances/tue/tue-faqs/#TUEC

        What is a Therapeutic Use Exemption Committee (TUEC)?

        The TUEC is the group of doctors and medical experts that review your TUE application and recommend whether the TUE should be approved or denied based on the criteria in the WADA International Standard of TUEs. Each anti-doping agency and International Federation has its own TUEC. Your identity is never revealed to the TUEC.

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        • #14
          This again? Just accept the facts and move on fanboys. No use bringing it up again, especially with wrong information. No amount of spinning can change the facts:

          750ml IV - illegal
          Retroactive TUE 20 days after
          Fight doctor at the weigh-in found no signs of ill health
          Floyd was in a private contract with USADA, where any tests are strictly confidential

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          • #15
            This is the very definition of what gullible means lololololol

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            • #16
              Originally posted by lolpz View Post
              I'm just going to assume you didn't read anything.
              Not sure what you mean.

              Did you read what I wrote? Please explain.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                At the time, IV, in any amount, for any reason, was allowed under NAC rules.
                As per ShowTime Epilogue episode, Floyd Mayweather was supposed to let the NSAC know about his medical condition but Floyd did NOT.

                The NSAC physicians AKA NSAC would have decided if what Floyd did was acceptable.

                Because of what Floyd did, they updated their rules to close the loop hole that Floyd took advantage of. So to say, more than likely, Floyd should NOT have been allowed to use an IV period!

                BUT AGAIN, Floyd didn't let the NSAC know, so Floyd just took the IV.


                and


                under WADA rules,

                Floyd is not allowed to use an IV.


                Floyd's excuses that giving blood and urine as excuses makes no sense since even USADA says so!!!

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                • #18
                  there's no logical explanation for 750mL.

                  Floyd showed zero signs of dehydration. and Manny also showed zero signs of a torn rotator cuff but that's another thread..

                  theres no logical explanation for Floyd applying for the TUE on May 19th and getting approved May 20th.

                  theres zero proof an ambulance was ever at his house. must've been an invisible one since zero media members covered this.

                  this IV crap stinks to high heaven. its ok to be a Floyd fan and acknowledge this. some of you act like u know this man personally trying to defend his honor.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    As per ShowTime Epilogue episode, Floyd Mayweather was supposed to let the NSAC know about his medical condition but Floyd did NOT.

                    The NSAC physicians AKA NSAC would have decided if what Floyd did was acceptable.

                    Because of what Floyd did, they updated their rules to close the loop hole that Floyd took advantage of. So to say, more than likely, Floyd should NOT have been allowed to use an IV period!
                    IV was allowed under NAC rules and lots of fighters were doing it. To prevent abuse, Floyd & Manny voluntarily hired USADA to make sure any IV use was legitimate. But under NAC rules, any amount, for any reason, was legal.

                    It wasn't a loop hole. It was an allowable method under NAC rules. Any update to put NAC in line with USADA just proves Floyd was right for voluntarily seeking stricter regulation.

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                    • #20
                      September 17, 2015

                      On September 9, 2015, SB Nation posted an article written by Mr. Thomas Hauser that contained no less than 40 inaccurate facts and misleading statements, as well as quotes from un-named, un-informed or self-interested sources about USADA and our role in anti-doping in the sport of professional boxing.

                      In order to provide truthful and accurate facts, and to stop the perpetuation of further rumors, speculation and false information, USADA has provided a detailed 25 page fact correction of the full article which can be found HERE. We have also included a brief overview of some of the most egregious inaccuracies below.



                      In regards to Mr. Mayweather’s Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE):

                      The article makes several inaccurate statements about Mr. Mayweather’s TUE. Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2, 2015, fight against Manny Pacquiao. Under the WADA Code, if an athlete has a need to use a prohibited method or substance, they may apply for and be granted a TUE. Having an approved TUE means that the athlete is not in violation of the anti-doping rules.

                      Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s inaccurate reports, the USADA DCO was in the home and observed Mr. Mayweather’s condition that precipitated the need for an IV. The DCO was also in the home when the paramedic was called and remained in the home while the paramedic provided the IV. At no point during the infusion did Mr. Mayweather attempt to hide anything regarding the treatment he was receiving.

                      Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada. As such, it is illogical to suggest that Mr. Mayweather had an obligation to apply to NSAC for a TUE for a procedure that is not prohibited or otherwise monitored by them. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the World Anti-Doping Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order to remain in compliance with the USADA program.

                      Furthermore, the prompt reporting of the TUE after its approval was in accordance with the terms of the testing agreement that was signed by both athletes. The NSAC was provided with the testing agreement and expressly advised of the procedure USADA would utilize to review, approve and report TUEs via email on April 6, 2015. In accordance with the agreement both Mr. Pacquiao and the NSAC were notified of the IV in May as soon as a TUE was approved.



                      As Mr. Bennett from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) said on September 12th:

                      “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”



                      In regards to Carbon Isotope Ratio (CIR) testing:

                      Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims that USADA does not utilize CIR testing on the basis that it is “unnecessary and too expensive,” USADA absolutely conducts CIR testing as part of our professional boxing testing programs. For instance, CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their May 2, 2015 fight.

                      USADA maintains, however that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their T/E ratio. If there were to be any fluctuations, they could lead to additional targeted testing. In addition, USADA’s professional boxing testing programs include testing for EPO, hGH and peptide hormones.

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