Boxing Forum
Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-13-2018, 02:51 PM #11
Noelanthony Noelanthony is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,258
Quoted: 1742 Post(s)
Rep Power: 9
Noelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 15,279.36
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 16,304.61
gAy J LOL - ^lll gAy J LOL - ^lll 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvlus Marv View Post
Do we not take into account Usyk struggling with Bellew for most of the 8 rounds which nobody predicted? He did a lot of bouncing up and down but until Tony emptied his gas tank, he hardly looked like a superstar. I can't see him beating any of the really big men.
I agree but tell me a fighter in Bellews entire career that has made him empty his tank by the 5th round. He fought the perfect fight. You couldn’t have dreamed for a better start for him but by the 6th round you knew the end was near.

If usyk hears the final bell against any heavyweight he wins. He has the ring smarts and Stamina to fight like Mayweather as a heavyweight.

N.b let me stress this for the hard headed. Nobody is saying he is Mayweather
Noelanthony is online now   Reply With Quote
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
Old 11-13-2018, 02:52 PM #12
Noelanthony Noelanthony is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,258
Quoted: 1742 Post(s)
Rep Power: 9
Noelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond reputeNoelanthony has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 15,279.36
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 16,304.61
gAy J LOL - ^lll gAy J LOL - ^lll 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kafkod View Post
You are talking like Usyk went life and death with Bellew!

Yes, he "struggled" with him - for the first 5 rounds. That's what's supposed to happen when 2 world class boxers collide!

They meet in the ring and have a fight .. ie, they "struggle" with each other, till the better man asserts his superiority and wins.

And it didn't take long for Usyk to do just that. Like the article says, as soon as he went up a gear, he took over and finished Tony emphatically.
Well said...
Noelanthony is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 03:10 PM #13
uppercut510 uppercut510 is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 4,418
Quoted: 1770 Post(s)
Rep Power: 11
uppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond reputeuppercut510 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 11,804.35
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 12,829.60
Cheers! - Snoop Frog Great Post! - Nomadic 
Default

people are acting like usyk was getting beat badly, its not like bellew was a bum, maybe it was his plan to tire out bellew and then turn it on later, it worked... but on another note the main people complaining here are the same ones who jump on other fighters who have close fights up until knock outs and call it struggled with, but im not saying any names.
uppercut510 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 03:23 PM #14
Marvlus Marv Marvlus Marv is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Balls Deep
Posts: 1,734
Quoted: 603 Post(s)
Rep Power: 6
Marvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 8,283.82
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 9,309.07
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Millar View Post
Of course there's some big 'If's' and Tony's game plan was spot on and clearly frustrating Usyk. To be fair it's hard to look like a super star against that strategy so credit to Bellew. But elite boxers make adjustments and after the first 3 rounds you could see the fight turning around. But again kudos to Bellew, those first 3 rounds would have normalised most heavyweights. Will be interesting to see if Usyk can keep his movement when he's 14-20lb heavier.
Usyk did a lot of swishing and missing by a fair distance. I honestly feel if Bellew was better conditioned and more recently active he could have won that. I only gave him a punchers chance. Surely AJ would be too big and too strong. Usyk vs Fury?
Marvlus Marv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 03:31 PM #15
Marvlus Marv Marvlus Marv is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Balls Deep
Posts: 1,734
Quoted: 603 Post(s)
Rep Power: 6
Marvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 8,283.82
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 9,309.07
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kafkod View Post
You are talking like Usyk went life and death with Bellew!

Yes, he "struggled" with him - for the first 5 rounds. That's what's supposed to happen when 2 world class boxers collide!

They meet in the ring and have a fight .. ie, they "struggle" with each other, till the better man asserts his superiority and wins.

And it didn't take long for Usyk to do just that. Like the article says, as soon as he went up a gear, he took over and finished Tony emphatically.
Bellew ain't world class. Come on man, you're being silly. He's maximised his abilities which were pretty decent - 2 or 3 ABA titles means he's a proper boxer. Tony wasn't meant to outbox Usyk, though, I'm sure you can admit that, but that's exactly what was happening, and I'm saying that Tony's conditioning let him down. Folks have a lot of hype invested in Usyk and Tony debunked a little bit of that, imo. Similar to GGG and Kovalev losses which exposed their weaknesses, but still there are some who fail to acknowledge what Canelo and Ward managed to do. Usyk is very good but greatness may elude him.
Marvlus Marv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 03:40 PM #16
Marvlus Marv Marvlus Marv is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Balls Deep
Posts: 1,734
Quoted: 603 Post(s)
Rep Power: 6
Marvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 8,283.82
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 9,309.07
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelanthony View Post
Well said...
Yet Tony said himself his tank just "emptied" which is why Usyk got to him. It suggests his conditioning wasn't what it should have been or the belief drained out of him - which would be strange since he was up on 2 cards and must've known he was winning the fight. Usyk's pressure was constant but he was mostly bouncing and flicking out the jab with varying success.
Marvlus Marv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 03:43 PM #17
Fategg666 Fategg666 is offline
Amateur
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 4
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Rep Power: 0
Fategg666 is on a distinguished road
Points: 5,273.00
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 6,298.25
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvlus Marv View Post
Bellew ain't world class. Come on man, you're being silly. He's maximised his abilities which were pretty decent - 2 or 3 ABA titles means he's a proper boxer. Tony wasn't meant to outbox Usyk, though, I'm sure you can admit that, but that's exactly what was happening, and I'm saying that Tony's conditioning let him down. Folks have a lot of hype invested in Usyk and Tony debunked a little bit of that, imo. Similar to GGG and Kovalev losses which exposed their weaknesses, but still there are some who fail to acknowledge what Canelo and Ward managed to do. Usyk is very good but greatness may elude him.
How can anyone say tony was out boxing him. Laughable!
Not a fan of either but usyk was just making sure he didn't walk into anything whilst making tony work for every min. Tony was hitting gloves and elbows.
Watch again with Russian comentry so u can't be manipulated by sky sports .
So one sided it's crazy.
Fategg666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 03:47 PM #18
Marvlus Marv Marvlus Marv is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Balls Deep
Posts: 1,734
Quoted: 603 Post(s)
Rep Power: 6
Marvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 8,283.82
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 9,309.07
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelanthony View Post
I agree but tell me a fighter in Bellews entire career that has made him empty his tank by the 5th round. He fought the perfect fight. You couldn’t have dreamed for a better start for him but by the 6th round you knew the end was near.

If usyk hears the final bell against any heavyweight he wins. He has the ring smarts and Stamina to fight like Mayweather as a heavyweight.

N.b let me stress this for the hard headed. Nobody is saying he is Mayweather
But Usyk wasn't doing a great deal to make Tony gas so suddenly. He couldn't work out how to get to Tony without getting touched by his right hand. Even Bellew said his energy levels just disappeared. I'm not completely buying the argument that it was Usyk's relentlless pressure that got to Tony and I think some of the Usyk hype was debunked, a la Canelo vs Golovkin II & Ward vs Kov II (especially so).
Marvlus Marv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 03:51 PM #19
Marvlus Marv Marvlus Marv is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Balls Deep
Posts: 1,734
Quoted: 603 Post(s)
Rep Power: 6
Marvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond reputeMarvlus Marv has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 8,283.82
Bank: 1,025.25
Total Points: 9,309.07
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fategg666 View Post
How can anyone say tony was out boxing him. Laughable!
Not a fan of either but usyk was just making sure he didn't walk into anything whilst making tony work for every min. Tony was hitting gloves and elbows.
Watch again with Russian comentry so u can't be manipulated by sky sports .
So one sided it's crazy.
So how the hell did most people have Bellew UP on the cards including 2 of the judges? How do you win rounds in your opinion if not by outboxing your opponent? wtf..
Marvlus Marv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2018, 05:06 PM #20
kafkod kafkod is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: The land of lost content
Posts: 14,995
Quoted: 9441 Post(s)
Rep Power: 36
kafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond reputekafkod has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 5,247.54
Bank: 21,741.82
Total Points: 26,989.36
:) - Beercules :) - MDPopescu Don't be so damned sensitive, you're Scottish. - Scott.Weiland. Have a Sunday beer on me - Steve plunger true poster!!! - MDPopescu 
war jezza! - mlac P4P funny poster list on BScene - Snoop Frog ok - clandestino Thnx for the green. Cheers - Boxing Goat 
Default

Image View Removed. Please Click Here.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvlus Marv View Post
Bellew ain't world class. Come on man, you're being silly. He's maximised his abilities which were pretty decent - 2 or 3 ABA titles means he's a proper boxer. Tony wasn't meant to outbox Usyk, though, I'm sure you can admit that, but that's exactly what was happening, and I'm saying that Tony's conditioning let him down. Folks have a lot of hype invested in Usyk and Tony debunked a little bit of that, imo. Similar to GGG and Kovalev losses which exposed their weaknesses, but still there are some who fail to acknowledge what Canelo and Ward managed to do. Usyk is very good but greatness may elude him.
kafkod is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump


 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:12 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.