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Old 11-13-2018, 02:24 PM #21
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If Garcia had stayed with Top Rank he would have faced Lomachenko and Crawford already. Now Spence is about to break his face. The main reason this fight is happening is because Spence is Haymon's golden boy and he needs a name like Mikey to feed to Spence in the hopes of making him a big PPV star. Hence why Mikey is being offered so much to take this fight.
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Lol Mikey is already in deep negotiations with Spence...where was this when he wad available?

The chronological order is hilarious too...why fight the bigger guy first? So move up to 147 first, try to get him beat then give Loma the damaged goods?

If Bob was reasonable he'd offer Loma first, after Loma sparks out Pedraza in that 4 round beating he's going to give him, then offer Crawford.

Again the timing of the offer too...why now when Garcia-Spence is pretty much all but signed/sealed? Man o man.

Then to go and say "Well I offered the fight but they went a different direction..." Lol so predictable.
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If Garcia had stayed with Top Rank he would have faced Lomachenko and Crawford already. Now Spence is about to break his face. The main reason this fight is happening is because Spence is Haymon's golden boy and he needs a name like Mikey to feed to Spence in the hopes of making him a big PPV star. Hence why Mikey is being offered so much to take this fight.
Uh Mikey was the one that called out spence
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If he's giving him the same money he's getting for Spence Mikey would be stupid not to take those fights.

I doubt very highly he is doe.

This isn't a legacy thing this is a money thing. Legacy just comes along with the money he's getting for Spence if he wins.
Its also a fight that could ruin him and his ability to earn money in the future.

Hes 30 years old, he doesn't need to be taking a spence fight, he needs to be clearing out the fighters around his size who are also p4p level, like loma and crawford. Both of whom are significantly smaller than spence, who will probably end up as a middleweight.
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Bob Arum seems to be stuck in Neutral with no big matches to give ESPN, as posted some weeks ago I think the Pressure is on from ESPN to deliver some of these big match ups, some big Match Ups he can't deliver without Haymon...How Ironic!

Arum better go all in for GGG, they kinda need him at this point. I honestly cant think of 1 potential ESPN PPV Match up that Arum can give them right now In House and maybe that is why he is scrambling a bit
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Its also a fight that could ruin him and his ability to earn money in the future.
Thats the business they are in. Any fight can be your last fight. Everyone who walks into the ring is taking a risk to die or to not be the same guy they previously were.

I don't think Mikey's at anymore greater risk vs Spence then normal. And in fact I'd probably say he's at far less risk then some of Spence's previous opponents.

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Hes 30 years old, he doesn't need to be taking a spence fight, he needs to be clearing out the fighters around his size who are also p4p level, like loma and crawford. Both of whom are significantly smaller than spence, who will probably end up as a middleweight.
Mikey needs to do whatever he wants to do. And we all know Mikey is one of these no bs guys when it comes to money.

If you are paying him the money he'll fight the guy. And it would seem to be that he finally got offered what he wanted for a big fight. Remember this is a guy who sat for 2 years over money issues where he felt he was being screwed over. Money is at the forefront of his mind not legacy or P4P sh^t. That legacy & P4P sh^t will come with the money so no reason to worry about it.

And this is a no lose situation for Mikey as I see it. If he beats Spence he's on another level & if he loses to Spence he was supposed to lose & he can still go back down to fight Loma. Or he can fight Bud still to if Arum is willing to pay Mikey what Mikey feels he's worth.

The opposite is not true. If Mikey fights Loma & loses, as I suspect he would, then he's never getting the Spence or Bud fight.

Matter of fact the ideal hand to play here for Mikey with big fights is Spence (biggest risk & reward). He's the man if he wins & can fight anyone he wants. If he loses he can fight Bud. If he beats Bud he's still a player at 147 & would have a belt to get bigger fights/more money. If he loses to Bud he can go down & fight Loma. So Spence, Bud & Loma in that order is how Mikey can work it for maximum income.
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No doubt.

I mean boxing should ultimately be about the sport not the business. But boxing works how it works today & thats strongly business oriented & a lot of that is cuz of a classic bean counter like Arum which is super ironic for him if he realizes that.

And the reality is Arum's got two of the best fighters in the world....and no real opponents for them. He's gonna need to bend or pay guys more money or he's not gonna get the fights for his guys to reach their true ceiling.
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Thats the business they are in. Any fight can be your last fight. Everyone who walks into the ring is taking a risk to die or to not be the same guy they previously were.

I don't think Mikey's at anymore greater risk vs Spence then normal. And in fact I'd probably say he's at far less risk then some of Spence's previous opponents.



Mikey needs to do whatever he wants to do. And we all know Mikey is one of these no bs guys when it comes to money.

If you are paying him the money he'll fight the guy. And it would seem to be that he finally got offered what he wanted for a big fight. Remember this is a guy who sat for 2 years over money issues where he felt he was being screwed over. Money is at the forefront of his mind not legacy or P4P sh^t. That legacy & P4P sh^t will come with the money so no reason to worry about it.

And this is a no lose situation for Mikey as I see it. If he beats Spence he's on another level & if he loses to Spence he was supposed to lose & he can still go back down to fight Loma. Or he can fight Bud still to if Arum is willing to pay Mikey what Mikey feels he's worth.

The opposite is not true. If Mikey fights Loma & loses, as I suspect he would, then he's never getting the Spence or Bud fight.

Matter of fact the ideal hand to play here for Mikey with big fights is Spence (biggest risk & reward). He's the man if he wins & can fight anyone he wants. If he loses he can fight Bud. If he beats Bud he's still a player at 147 & would have a belt to get bigger fights/more money. If he loses to Bud he can go down & fight Loma. So Spence, Bud & Loma in that order is how Mikey can work it for maximum income.
It's hard to devise a better strategy to maximise his income, and like you say there's always a risk, but he's either gonna be giving up a lot of weight to Spence and Bud or he'll have to drop a lot to reach Loma at 135 in a coupla years time... that's one thing in your 20s but can be a whole other story when you're 31, 32 - at least from what other fighters say. I think if he were to fight Spence and Bud the Loma fight would have to take place at 140 minimum.
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Thats the business they are in. Any fight can be your last fight. Everyone who walks into the ring is taking a risk to die or to not be the same guy they previously were.

I don't think Mikey's at anymore greater risk vs Spence then normal. And in fact I'd probably say he's at far less risk then some of Spence's previous opponents.



Mikey needs to do whatever he wants to do. And we all know Mikey is one of these no bs guys when it comes to money.

If you are paying him the money he'll fight the guy. And it would seem to be that he finally got offered what he wanted for a big fight. Remember this is a guy who sat for 2 years over money issues where he felt he was being screwed over. Money is at the forefront of his mind not legacy or P4P sh^t. That legacy & P4P sh^t will come with the money so no reason to worry about it.

And this is a no lose situation for Mikey as I see it. If he beats Spence he's on another level & if he loses to Spence he was supposed to lose & he can still go back down to fight Loma. Or he can fight Bud still to if Arum is willing to pay Mikey what Mikey feels he's worth.

The opposite is not true. If Mikey fights Loma & loses, as I suspect he would, then he's never getting the Spence or Bud fight.

Matter of fact the ideal hand to play here for Mikey with big fights is Spence (biggest risk & reward). He's the man if he wins & can fight anyone he wants. If he loses he can fight Bud. If he beats Bud he's still a player at 147 & would have a belt to get bigger fights/more money. If he loses to Bud he can go down & fight Loma. So Spence, Bud & Loma in that order is how Mikey can work it for maximum income.
You think those fights will be on the table after a loss to spence? If it was a legitimate offer to Mikey, continuing down the Spence path just makes zero sense.

He already looked maxed out in how far he could realistically move up at 140 vs broner, who also started at the lower weights.

Its not the same fighting a big kid like spence, who started at 147, is a monster, and can bang.

The odds of Mikeys power carrying up to 147 are basically zero.

He relies on that power to keep people honest enough to use his boxing skills.

I really love Mikey as a fighter, but I don't think he is slick enough or will hit hard enough at the weight to be able to discourage Spence, or to keep him off of him.

You can say oh, it wont be like a loss for him because he moved up in weight. Tell that to Rigondeaux, Khan, and Brook.

Whats happened to them since their failed weight jumps?

Mikey is a great little fighter who still has a lot of good fights left in him. But if things go badly with spence, there might be no more good fights in him.

As much as I believe in Mikey, I am 100% confident that this is a step way to far for him, and there is no need to see it.

There is no need to make fights like this.

Mikey 100% believes he can do it, but the people handling him need to steer him away from this fight.

Hopefully its just a negotiating tactic to secure better terms for a fight with Crawford, which is a fight I would love to see, or Loma which is another fight id LOVE to see.

People need to keep in mind that Spence is basically GGG's size and build, but he is young enough to boil down to 147 right now.

Spence has even said in interviews that its very hard for him to make 147lb because its not his natural weight. Talked about going up to 154lb because of his difficulties making weight.

Spence is basically a 147lb weight bully right now. You don't move from 135lb to 147lb to fight a guy that is taking advantage of the fact that he is so much bigger than everyone else at 147lb.

Especially one as fundamentally sound and aggressive as Spence is, that has reach on you, and height on you, is Southpaw, hits like a mule, can take a hell of a shot, and bangs to the body nonstop.

This fight makes as much sense as it did for Gamboa to go up for Crawford.

We have already seen Garcia at 140lb, and it looks like he was stretching how far up in weight he could go there. So to go to 147 vs the best guy in a the division, a guy who could be fighting at 160 right now is just crazy.

Even if Mikey somehow wins the fight, there is no doubt in my mind that earning that win will take a toll on him physically that he didn't anticipate.

If he's getting a really good payday, and plans to retire afterwards, it would make sense as a fight. But if he plans to continue to build his legacy, this fight makes no sense, compared to a Crawford or Lomachenko fight.
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1000%. Arum's got no opponents for those guys. Arum's gotta take what he can get.

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Who Arum's offer? If Arum's offer was as good as the Spence offer I suspect we'd be seeing Mikey vs Loma or Bud. Spence is the most no lose situation on the table for Mikey right now like I said. It makes the most sense.

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You can say oh, it wont be like a loss for him because he moved up in weight. Tell that to Rigondeaux, Khan, and Brook.

Whats happened to them since their failed weight jumps?
Well to hear Hearn talk about Khan & Brook are about to be in one of the biggest UK fights of the year.

And Rigo is older. His Loma sh^t was a money grab that was a bad move, but a mfer gots to get paid before he retires to & while Arum didn't break the bank on him I'm positive he likely gave Rigo the best payday he could get at the time.

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As much as I believe in Mikey, I am 100% confident that this is a step way to far for him, and there is no need to see it.
I mean which fight of the 3 we are talking about isn't a step to far for him? I'd argue he's the dog in all of them & I'd pick against him if any of them were made next.

So at that point I think taking the most money for your L (or risk of an L from Mikey's vantage point cuz I'm sure he believes he can beat all 3, but even he'd realize none are easy W's). Thats kinda how this business works as you get towards the tougher fights. You wanna get the most bang for your buck.

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Hopefully its just a negotiating tactic to secure better terms for a fight with Crawford, which is a fight I would love to see, or Loma which is another fight id LOVE to see.
I mean cmon man. Do you know who you're dealing with here. This is Bob Arum. Bob is a old school bean counter promoter. He's not gonna overpay a guy he's not got options on 99x out of 100. The reality is Mikey's probably never going to fight those guys cuz Arum won't pay Mikey what Mikey feels he's worth. But if Arum does pay Mikey what's he's worth at some point those fights will happen & if he'd have made the offer already those fights would be happening instead of Spence.

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People need to keep in mind that Spence is basically GGG's size and build
LOL idk about this. But yea I agree Spence will probably move up to 154 & do well & not be killing himself as much to make weight.

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This fight makes as much sense as it did for Gamboa to go up for Crawford.
Idk about this. I suspect Mikey's getting paid more for his 0 so it makes more sense for sure I'd bet.

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If he's getting a really good payday, and plans to retire afterwards, it would make sense as a fight. But if he plans to continue to build his legacy, this fight makes no sense, compared to a Crawford or Lomachenko fight.
Idk why fans mention legacy so much. I think fighters are doing their job & trying to get paid the most for their chosen profession than thinking about grand ideas like legacy. Legacy comes with the money. Fighting for legacy over money is f#cking stupid. And Mikey surely knows this as he's using his boxing money better than 99% of boxers from the sounds of it. I've said it many times before, but I actually think Mikey will shine the most once he's done fighting. Mikey's gonna be a boss mfer post-retirement.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Mikey is out within the next 12-36 months so maybe Spence is his retirement plan or the beginning of his retirement plan at least. Mikey's smarter than most & that would lead me to believe he knows few lil guys do much past 33 years old historically & are certainly more often than not to be past prime at that age & thats when losing more brain cells than necessary is a real thing for boxers to be concerned with.
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