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  • Showtime CEO refutes Arum and Eddie Hearn's fake news

    Showtime CEO David Nevins commits to boxing, saying “There’s a great opportunity for us to own the high end”






    Bob Arum's October prediction that "within the next year, Showtime will be exiting boxing" doesn't appear set to come to pass.

    And in some ways, Nevins may well be right. Yes, there’s quite a crowded boxing market out there between DAZN, Golden Boy and Top Rank on ESPN, Premier Boxing Champions on plenty of networks, Golden Boy fights on Facebook and more, and that was all part of HBO’s rationale for exiting the space. But that HBO departure may also provide some opportunity for Showtime. Boxing on premium cable worked well for both HBO and Showtime for a long while, and now Showtime can use it as a differentiation point that helps them stand out against HBO.

    Of course, there are still plenty of competitors, including some newer ones like DAZN, and it can be debated if the “high end” of boxing will really be on Showtime rather than on fighter-exclusive deals like what DAZN has with Canelo (and what Gennady Golovkin is reportedly eyeing with DAZN, ESPN, or PBC), but there’s certainly the chance for them to grab some good fights. And the amount of interest in the Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury fight Saturday (a Showtime PPV) certainly seems like a sign there’s still buzz around boxing when it’s a good enough fight.

    Showtime boxing announcer Al Bernstein obviously has a horse in the race, but in comments to Tom Hoffarth for a piece in The Hollywood Reporter ahead of the Wilder-Fury fight, he made a case for boxing being anything but dead, and a case for Showtime continuing with it:

    With declarations of boxing’s demise a regular theme, how do you compartmentalize that as the increased exposure of the sport continues to spread on new media platforms?

    It’s absurd. I understand it’s more a niche sport now in America, but you can make the argument that almost every sport outside of the NFL is that way. A sport can’t possibly be dying when internationally it’s so huge and is so accessible. I think it’s had a renaissance for the last four or five years. The mainstream U.S. media, from the late ’90s to maybe 2010, barely covered boxing, but two things have happened since then: The product it has put out there has been exceptionally good, and it has had more exposure. Over-the-air networks like NBC and Fox have it [with occasional Premier Boxing Champions specials], it’s still on ESPN for cable coverage, there are premium channels. And now we’re turning to the next intriguing chapter, because we’ve always wondered when a sport will turn to the internet as its main streaming platform, and now DAZN is trying that next bold step and we will find out in real time who will pay for it.

    Even with boxing positioned on all possible ways of distribution, it’s also a viable pay-per-view product, if you price it correctly and don’t do 10 to 12 events a year. We will see how it all shakes out in the next couple of years.

    …Showtime remains invested. Why is that?

    Showtime has gone in a few directions since I started in 2003, with different people at the helm, but I can honestly say in the last several years, boxing on Showtime has been at its peak. There’s a commitment [Showtime Sports president] Stephen Espinoza has made with resources. In my 37 years, on every level — back to ESPN shows where they spent $4.95 on the production — I don’t think I’ve ever been on a show that put as many resources into boxing as this network has.


    Bernstein notes in there too that HBO had people leaving the company before their decision to exit was made, which is also an important part of this; it wasn’t necessarily as much them cutting ties with an ongoing business in boxing, but deciding not to reinvest in it. By contrast, though, Showtime is continuing to invest in their boxing coverage, and Nevins’ comments here make it seem like that’s the plan for the foreseeable future. We’ll see how that works out for them in the long run, but it appears clear that Arum will at least be proven wrong in his comments that “within the next year, Showtime will be exiting from boxing.”
    https://awfulannouncing.com/showtime...-high-end.html
    Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 12-05-2018, 12:32 AM.

  • #2
    So is it just me, or does anyone in North America even know Canelo is fighting next week?

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    • #3
      Multiple avenues for fighters to make money is a great thing. The only thing that could improve is all of them playing nice and doing cross platform events. It is good for the fighters, but bad for the fans.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
        So is it just me, or does anyone in North America even know Canelo is fighting next week?
        No one knows and I doubt espn or fox is going to help bring any attention to it. Dazn doesnt have the fighters to break into USA with boxing if they dont get ggg golden boy could be in trouble.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
          So is it just me, or does anyone in North America even know Canelo is fighting next week?
          I had actually forgot he was fighting in two weeks until yesterday.

          Maybe that was more so because of the Wilder/Fury build up.

          Early on DAZN though is definitely going to go through a tough time. But they are there for the long game. Wish they would have better commercials. Those are super cringeworthy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
            I had actually forgot he was fighting in two weeks until yesterday.

            Maybe that was more so because of the Wilder/Fury build up.

            Early on DAZN though is definitely going to go through a tough time. But they are there for the long game. Wish they would have better commercials. Those are super cringeworthy.
            After the Canelo fight they have 5 months until he fights again. After people use their free trial to see him fight what does DAZN have for those five months to keep people subscribed?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              After the Canelo fight they have 5 months until he fights again. After people use their free trial to see him fight what does DAZN have for those five months to keep people subscribed?
              That's what Evan Rutkowski was saying that DAZN has to go hard in early 2019 after the Canelo fight to keep their subscribers and to increase them. Definitely will have Joshua's fight in April on there. But what else? Andrade against who? Maybe Linares vs Hooker? Getting GGG would be huge and they could fit him in there sometime between January and May.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                So is it just me, or does anyone in North America even know Canelo is fighting next week?
                Obviously that’s just you.. have spoken to plenty of casuals out here in LA that know Canelo is fighting next week while none knew about the HW fight that just happen in their backyard.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                  So is it just me, or does anyone in North America even know Canelo is fighting next week?
                  Oh shet . The fight's next week already ?
                  I honestly forgot . And the reason I ordered DAZN was for Canelo ( and the WBSS) .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                    So is it just me, or does anyone in North America even know Canelo is fighting next week?
                    Those DAZN ads are playing on one TV or more whenever I pass a sportsbook, but I don't think people notice the fight advertised in that same ad most of the time. I know I've heard exactly 0 mfers talking about that fight. It is a bs fight doe so its not THAT surprising a development honestly.

                    It'll be more interesting if people notice/talk about Canelo's normal May fight.

                    I mean this $10 thing is cool for hardcore fans like us here, but if you are making bs fights most don't care about idk if it matters if its $1 or $100. People won't buy what they dgaf about.

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