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Old 02-19-2019, 06:51 PM #21
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People fundamentally misunderstand what drug tesing is. VADA isn't a laboratory lmao.

VADA will get their results from a lab {UK based lab} the send the results off to the sanctioning body, WBA if it was from. VADA in AJ's case. The WBA can do what they like with the results.

HGH is very hard and expensive to test accurately
its easy to mask the bio markers

AJ will have popped a positive in his life 100%,as an olympian the UKAD would just give him a retrospective TUA and take their bung from matchroom.


As long as there is big money behind AJ then he will never get caught.

He jumped 20lb of lean muscle in 6 months in 2014 lol....
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:34 PM #22
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Joshua is 100% juicing.

He literally avoided his own £50m deal to not have to enroll in the WBC clean boxing program!

He has a HGH gut, he's put on 30lbs of lean muscle and got to about 7%body fat, his head has grown about 20% since the Olympics. He's the most obvious HGH user I think I've ever seen in boxing.

Even Michael Grant or Frank Bruno never got to this level of peds.

People go on about VADA, UKAD etc, but to test for HGH it's incredibly expensive and the science behind it isn't very good, to mask the bio markers it's expensive but fairly easy...

Most HWs are juicing, probably even big baby himself.

Joshua probably has come off the gear now and is cooling off before he wants to fight Wilder.

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Joshua is far from the only boxer juicing but he is one of the most obvious cases I've ever seen. I think many more boxers would call him out on it if they weren't afraid of getting sued and destroyed financially. I remember Parker making some inflammatory comments, but then basically having to apologise and retract his statements. It's one thing to know, it's another to be able to prove it when you're getting sued in a court case.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:18 PM #23
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AJ is the most tested boxer in the history of the sport so not sure how he would of ever done it unless it was before his boxing career.
Well if he is EXEMPT, then the tests dont matter, right?

This is interesting to me because in MMA the guys who were on TRT were absolute savages regardless or age.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:22 PM #24
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I always figured Joshua was on steroids at some point, but TRT is actually more condusive to fighting sports as it doesnt sacrifice stamina as much.
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AJ is the most tested boxer in the history of the sport so not sure how he would of ever done it unless it was before his boxing career.
lol so was Lance Armstrong, when you're one of the highest paid boxers making millions not only for himself but for his promoter and other business dealings, they definitely want to protect that golden goose.

AJ looks like a walking pharmaceutical lab, I'm sure he and his people can afford the latest designer drugs that the Testing companies haven't even heard of...
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:27 AM #26
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AJ is the most tested boxer in the history of the sport so not sure how he would of ever done it unless it was before his boxing career.


testing follows the development of drugs. it takes years and millions of dollars of trials to develop a test that's accurate enough to suspend a multi million dollar athlete with a team of lawyers on retainer.

did you know lance armstrong was the best cyclist ever, in the sport where peds will help you the most, and went undetected for years? literally years, the guy cemented during that time the very best career ever in cycling, the PED capital of sports where you race hundreds of miles every day for weeks
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you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about and need to shut the f#ck up.
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I find it hilarious how a man who was lanky and narrow-shouldered his whole life even at the Olympics, suddenly "filled out" and become massive, ripped and vascular. Amateur AJ looks malnourished compared to modern-day roided-up AJ.

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testing follows the development of drugs. it takes years and millions of dollars of trials to develop a test that's accurate enough to suspend a multi million dollar athlete with a team of lawyers on retainer.

did you know lance armstrong was the best cyclist ever, in the sport where peds will help you the most, and went undetected for years? literally years, the guy cemented during that time the very best career ever in cycling, the PED capital of sports where you race hundreds of miles every day for weeks
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you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about and need to shut the f#ck up.
Then Wilder, Fury and everyone else is on the PED's and its a level playing field. Wilder was a 198 pound amateur and his career heaviest is what 235? Over 30 pounds on his upper body because its obvious he skips leg day!
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Joshua is 100% juicing.

He literally avoided his own £50m deal to not have to enroll in the WBC clean boxing program!
The WBA have their own program with VADA that is exactly the same as the WBC's that Joshua is already enrolled in so no he clearly did not avoid his own deal to get out of the WBC clean boxing program...
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The WBA have their own program with VADA that is exactly the same as the WBC's that Joshua is already enrolled in so no he clearly did not avoid his own deal to get out of the WBC clean boxing program...

You're comparing the WBA clean boxing program to the WBC lmao
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