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  • #31
    Originally posted by el*** View Post
    If youre talking about my sexual identity, I am a vagene slayer.
    If you can't spell it you ain't slaying it sweet cheeks

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    • #32
      Originally posted by el*** View Post
      You got your boxing history wrong.

      AJ blatantly ducked wilder. Threw 50 million down the toilet. Then when Wilder and Fury had the balls to fight each other and AJ was left on the sidelines, started making demands that Wilder interrupt his training camp for Fury to go negotiate an AJ fight..... nobody with a brain bought that ploy, atleast thats what I thought but looks like your dumb ass bought it.
      Hahahaha what's all this bollocks? Everybody knows wilder ducked Joshua, whyte and the klitchko. He has the resume of a career ducker and he's needed to cheat on the 2 occasions he fought anybody good.

      What a casual you sound like. I presume you are.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by el*** View Post
        Just a few weeks ago these 3 were talked about as equals.

        We've seen:

        Wilder easily dispatch in the first round a common opponent that took AJ forever to handle.

        AJ get brutally knocked out by a mexican butterbean.

        Fury easily dispatch a 6'5'' man, near the size of AJ in two rounds.

        One of these fighters is not like the other two and has been highly overrated in all these years. Also remember AJ's best win was over an older Wladimir that Fury softened up and AJ was put on queer street in the process due to his weak jaw, Fury never had that problem with Wladimir.
        For anyone who did their own research and didn't rely on other peoples opinions, this was obvious well before Fury's showcase fight with Schwarz. Wilder was champion before Fury, and Fury became lineal champion when he beat Klitschko. Wilder was avoided by Klitschko right from the get-go when Klitschko offered him step aside money to fight Stiverne for the WBC belt. Joshua, from the very beginning, was steered clear of Wilder to pick up the belts stripped from Fury and ultimately refused to fight Wilder for $50 million against 50% last year. This led to the epic fight between Wilder and Fury last December: Fury lucky he didn't lose by knockout in the last round and Wilder lucky he didn't lose on the scorecards. That being said, Fury is still in the process of getting to the point where he feels he can beat Wilder in the rematch, gaining a few more pounds and getting more match fit. When he opted out of the Wilder rematch in May, it was a silent acknowledgment that he believes Wilder is the better fighter right now. Wilder also showed he is a better, more relaxed fighter after the Fury fight, obliterating Breazeale in one round.

        Andy Ruiz revealed where Joshua really stands in the heavyweight landscape: still a good fighter and a fun fighter to watch, but nowhere near the hype. Hopefully, Joshua improves enough to give a better showing in the Ruiz rematch, but not before taking more time to recover, and fighting less experienced opposition to improve his overall game. Like Fury, hopefully Joshua steps back and regroups before fighting for a title again. If he does it right way, he'll be an even better fighter than he is now.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post
          For anyone who did their own research and didn't rely on other peoples opinions, this was obvious well before Fury's showcase fight with Schwarz. Wilder was champion before Fury, and Fury became lineal champion when he beat Klitschko. Wilder was avoided by Klitschko right from the get-go when Klitschko offered him step aside money to fight Stiverne for the WBC belt. Joshua, from the very beginning, was steered clear of Wilder to pick up the belts stripped from Fury and ultimately refused to fight Wilder for $50 million against 50% last year. This led to the epic fight between Wilder and Fury last December: Fury lucky he didn't lose by knockout in the last round and Wilder lucky he didn't lose on the scorecards. That being said, Fury is still in the process of getting to the point where he feels he can beat Wilder in the rematch, gaining a few more pounds and getting more match fit. When he opted out of the Wilder rematch in May, it was a silent acknowledgment that he believes Wilder is the better fighter right now. Wilder also showed he is a better, more relaxed fighter after the Fury fight, obliterating Breazeale in one round.

          Andy Ruiz revealed where Joshua really stands in the heavyweight landscape: still a good fighter and a fun fighter to watch, but nowhere near the hype. Hopefully, Joshua improves enough to give a better showing in the Ruiz rematch, but not before taking more time to recover, and fighting less experienced opposition to improve his overall game. Like Fury, hopefully Joshua steps back and regroups before fighting for a title again. If he does it right way, he'll be an even better fighter than he is now.

          This is precisely it and AJ has had his career carefully crafted to avoid both Wilder and Fury. Hearn intentionally demanded that Wilder stop his training camp for Fury to go negotiate a contract with AJ because he knew he could then claim it as a duck. Hearn didnt interrupt AJ's training camp for 39 year old Povetkin to negotiate with wilder but he thought the public would be fooled when he demanded Wilder to sign right then. AJ was extremely jealous of all the media attention Wilder and Fury were getting at the time and wanted to rain on their parade.

          Now the truth is revealed and we have:

          Elite: Wilder, Fury
          A level: Ruiz, Ortiz
          B level: Joshua, Breazeale, Whyte, Parker


          I currently have Joshua at 5th in the division.

          1. Fury, undefeated lineal champion
          2. Wilder, undefeated
          3. Ruiz, huge collection of belts, huge KO win
          4. Ortiz, highly skilled, ducked by Joshua
          5. Joshua, massive KO loss, thoroughly beated by Ruiz

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          • #35
            AJ fans are just jealous because Fury went to USA and stormed it. Great entrance, clinical job with defensive wizardry that has gone viral all over the internet. Put on a show. Limited opponent but did the job he was meant to, which AJ didn’t.

            AJ went to USA, looked nervous and scared to death then got bounced around the ring by a man who’s best achievement was a close fight with Parker and now AJ has become the laughing stock of boxing.

            It’s funny. AJ fans were getting scared when Fury was all the rage back in December after beating Wilder. He stole AJ’s thunder. Things died down, the Wilder rematch never happened and Fury got a pretty easy opponent. AJ fans were happy because his big USA debut was putting him back on top but he got embarrassed and now Fury is the man again.

            People just need to accept this is Fury’s time and Fury’s era. He’s the man who beat the man, never lost his belts in the ring. Other guys had success when Fury was inactive but now he’s back and back on top. That’s just how it goes. Everyone finds their level eventually and Fury is the man of his era.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
              Dumb fk

              Wilder lost vs fury

              Got 30 secs recovery time for Ortiz to avoid defeat

              Ducked Joshua- nothing people posts will change the fact wilder ducked Joshua and his fans celebrated it. Team wilder know Joshua’s is all wrong for wilder. Let’s not forget wilder has ducked wlad and povetkin
              This!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • #37
                Anyway, Fury is number 1 right now!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                  He can fight but he is not some truly top level fighter. He’s a good solid heavyweight who’s best achievement was a close fight with Parker, who isn’t that great himself.

                  People may have underrated Ruiz before but now they’re overrating him. He’s sitting in a great position now and fair play to him but his time near the top would be short lived if he had to fight someone like Fury.
                  Exactly my opinion. So true...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by el*** View Post
                    You got your boxing history wrong.

                    AJ blatantly ducked wilder. Threw 50 million down the toilet. Then when Wilder and Fury had the balls to fight each other and AJ was left on the sidelines, started making demands that Wilder interrupt his training camp for Fury to go negotiate an AJ fight..... nobody with a brain bought that ploy, atleast thats what I thought but looks like your dumb ass bought it.
                    Ah come on now dude we all know that 50 million offer wasn't gonna happen with the money coming from BT which broke AJ's still active contract with Sky. That was a fake offer, they didn't even send a contract, just an email saying they'll give him 50 million that they promised they had. That's not a proper fight offer. By the way I'm no AJ fan, in case you think I like making excuses for him or something. I just know Wilder's much more deceptive and weak-minded.
                    Last edited by BoloShot; 06-16-2019, 10:53 AM. Reason: Further clarification of my point of view.

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                    • #40
                      Anthony Joshua is scared of Wilder, if people listen to HIS interviews and not Eddie Hearns it becomes apparent because he's pretty honest and candid.

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