Pacquiao-Margarito at 1.1 Million PPV Buys... well short of Mayweather's 1.4 million.

[megadeth]

I don't agree much with this "american boxer" thing. While Floyd is american, there are so many other american boxers as well. If it was patriotism, why aren't they being supported. The people of the highest PPV lists are mostly american, AND the best fighters of the era. They were also interesting, engaging and had the right marketing.

The issue I am having with all this non American talk. So what! Being american might help somewhat, but what about the fact that FMJ is primarily a defensive fighter. That SHOULD take away from his buys , the same way that Pac is an offensive moster adds to his. When FMJ fought Mosley, did anyone say "that is great for a primarily defensive fighter against a fighter that can barely draw flies"? Noooo! The same people that are impressed with Pac's 1.1mil are many of the same that were talking **** about FMJ's 1.4 mil.

There were a lot of threads about who is the larger draw, Floy or Pac. Many people said Pac. The reasoning isn't the issue, just the bottome line. Floyd is the bigger draw which gives him a lot of bargaining power at the negotiation table.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Damn Margo is quite the draw... like 600k plus on Pacs clottey numbers..

I bet Floyd/Margo could have done 2m buys if the ts numbers are right

[Canuckerbird]

Let's compare Floyd and Manny's PPV results shall we?

Throwing out both Oscar fights (because we all know Oscar made both of them the megastars they are today), let's look at Manny and Floyd's three biggest PPV fights:

Floyd sold 915K against Hatton, 1.1 million against Marquez, and 1.4 million against Mosley

Floyd's Total: 3.415 Million buys in his three biggest fights sans Oscar.

Manny sold 850K against Hatton, 1.25 million against Cotto, and 1.1 million against Margarito.

Manny's total: 3.2 million buys in his three biggest fights sans Oscar.

Both average well over 1 million buys when their fights are preceded by HBO's 24/7 series.

Now let's look at demographics which, as much as yesir would deny it, does have an empirical effect on PPV figures.

In the six fights which this comparison is centered around, Manny and Floyd fought a Brit, two Mexicans, a Puerto Rican, and an American. Of these nationalities, only the Brit (Hatton) failed to generate 1 million or more buys. The Mexicans both brought the same numbers, the Puerto Rican (albeit a very popular one) slightly more than the Mexicans, and the American bringing in the most.

Remember that HBO PPV figures are from US sales only, meaning they represent American interest in any given fight so naturally, a fight that has an American fighting in it SHOULD sell more than a fight with no Americans.

Floyd's and Manny's numbers are amazing. To consistently sell 1 million or more PPVs shows that both of them have crossed over to the mainstream quite well. The reason why Floyd's fights have sold slightly more is simply because he's American and Manny is not. That being said, the slight difference between the two may be accounted for if we factor in the fact that Shane Mosley is also an American, and one that has very good name recognition from his fights against Oscar.

In the end, demographics matter. The fact that Pacquiao, a Filipino, is selling almost just as much as Floyd, is indicative of his massive crossover appeal. When was the last time a non-American headlined a PPV that sold more than 1 million buys? Pacquiao has done this twice.

[IAMBIAZED]

people in this board knows hes an alt, hes dominicano soy, hes claiming to be from qc but cannot answer where . hes even using outdated "parekoy" and greeting pinoys "mabuhay". prolly hes a rabid fan of agapito sanchez who cannot forget.

People who uses parekoy needs to check the calendar LOLOLOLOL

Don't use "Mabuhay" if you ain't a stewardess LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Let's compare Floyd and Manny's PPV results shall we?

Throwing out both Oscar fights (because we all know Oscar made both of them the megastars they are today), let's look at Manny and Floyd's three biggest PPV fights:

Floyd sold 915K against Hatton, 1.1 million against Marquez, and 1.4 million against Mosley

Floyd's Total: 3.415 Million buys in his three biggest fights sans Oscar.

Manny sold 850K against Hatton, 1.25 million against Cotto, and 1.1 million against Margarito.

Manny's total: 3.2 million buys in his three biggest fights sans Oscar.

Both average well over 1 million buys when their fights are preceded by HBO's 24/7 series.

Now let's look at demographics which, as much as yesir would deny it, does have an empirical effect on PPV figures.

In the six fights which this comparison is centered around, Manny and Floyd fought a Brit, two Mexicans, a Puerto Rican, and an American. Of these nationalities, only the Brit (Hatton) failed to generate 1 million or more buys. The Mexicans both brought the same numbers, the Puerto Rican (albeit a very popular one) slightly more than the Mexicans, and the American bringing in the most.

Remember that HBO PPV figures are from US sales only, meaning they represent American interest in any given fight so naturally, a fight that has an American fighting in it SHOULD sell more than a fight with no Americans.

Floyd's and Manny's numbers are amazing. To consistently sell 1 million or more PPVs shows that both of them have crossed over to the mainstream quite well. The reason why Floyd's fights have sold slightly more is simply because he's American and Manny is not. That being said, the slight difference between the two may be accounted for if we factor in the fact that Shane Mosley is also an American, and one that has very good name recognition from his fights against Oscar.

In the end, demographics matter. The fact that Pacquiao, a Filipino, is selling almost just as much as Floyd, is indicative of his massive crossover appeal. When was the last time a non-American headlined a PPV that sold more than 1 million buys? Pacquiao has done this twice.

green K...solid post

[letsgobrady]

Huge numbers for a non-american matchup.

accordin to pac all these americans are not a draw thats why they won't fight them

[IronDanHamza]

Seems like Manny fans are annoyed with the numbers. I thought you didn't care about the numbers?

Anyway, 1.1 Million are good numbers for something that wasnt expected to hit 1 Million.

[maguirre]

I don't agree much with this "american boxer" thing. While Floyd is american, there are so many other american boxers as well. If it was patriotism, why aren't they being supported. The people of the highest PPV lists are mostly american, AND the best fighters of the era. They were also interesting, engaging and had the right marketing.

The issue I am having with all this non American talk. So what! Being american might help somewhat, but what about the fact that FMJ is primarily a defensive fighter. That SHOULD take away from his buys , the same way that Pac is an offensive moster adds to his. When FMJ fought Mosley, did anyone say "that is great for a primarily defensive fighter against a fighter that can barely draw flies"? Noooo! The same people that are impressed with Pac's 1.1mil are many of the same that were talking **** about FMJ's 1.4 mil.

There were a lot of threads about who is the larger draw, Floy or Pac. Many people said Pac. The reasoning isn't the issue, just the bottome line. Floyd is the bigger draw which gives him a lot of bargaining power at the negotiation table.

Oh boy, here comes the PPV fanboys now.

60/40 for Floyd. Yeeeaah!

More roadblocks please!

Floyd's dream of avoiding Pac forever is becoming a reality. Celebration time is coming for his fanboys.

Yeeeeaahh!

[jrosales13]

accordin to pac all these americans are not a draw thats why they won't fight them

How much do you think Marg helped on the PPV numbers?

And, do you think Baldomir at any point would have done close to this number with Pac?

[lfc19titles]

numbers are 1.15m not 1.1m, also these are the early indications, once its all counted, it will be closer to 1.25m which is great