Paulie Malinaggi on Pac vs Thurman: Is Pacquiao still natural to you?

[iamboxing]

I've never met an Italian that liked Asians. Probably the most bigoted people on the planet, and yes I know that's a bigoted thing to say.

[Scipio2009]

He's probably right but why is he so zoned in on Pacquiao? He's far from the only suspicious case in boxing

Because, in Paulie's mind and heart, Manny Pacquiao cheated boxing, the sport he'd given his life to and scraped his way to a successful world championship career, after basically busting both hands 5 fights into his pro run.

Paulie was a Pacquiao fan, marveled at what Pacquiao was doing ... up until what Pacquiao was doing no longer made any sense (and the hesitation with testing really started settling in).

Just for argument's sake, look at Roman Gonzalez; turned pro at 17 (flattening everyone), won his first world title at the age of 20, became a champion in a second division at 23, became a champion in his third division at 26 years of age, and has basically topped out at his fourth weight class at the age of 28.

Pacquiao debuted at the age of 16, won his first world title at 19, skipped over two weight classes and won his next world title at 22, won his fourth divisional title at 25, won his fifth divisional title at 27, and then still went up another three weight classes.

Could you even fathom Roman Gonzalez fight up to 126lbs at this point? lol

[Big_L]

How come none of the guys that were beaten by Pac have ever accused him?

[AliBombaye]

Because, in Paulie's mind and heart, Manny Pacquiao cheated boxing, the sport he'd given his life to and scraped his way to a successful world championship career, after basically busting both hands 5 fights into his pro run.

Paulie was a Pacquiao fan, marveled at what Pacquiao was doing ... up until what Pacquiao was doing no longer made any sense (and the hesitation with testing really started settling in).

Just for argument's sake, look at Roman Gonzalez; turned pro at 17 (flattening everyone), won his first world title at the age of 20, became a champion in a second division at 23, became a champion in his third division at 26 years of age, and has basically topped out at his fourth weight class at the age of 28.

Pacquiao debuted at the age of 16, won his first world title at 19, skipped over two weight classes and won his next world title at 22, won his fourth divisional title at 25, won his fifth divisional title at 27, and then still went up another three weight classes.

Could you even fathom Roman Gonzalez fight up to 126lbs at this point? lol

There's factors you aren't considering when fighters move up such as height, length, bone density, punching power and so on. Gonzalez isn't huring people at his current weight class. Manny with all the testing Floyd demanded was still able to rock Floyd who has a SOLID chin. Hell Manny has to eat just to fight at 147, he can EASILY make 140, probably even 135 if he really wanted to. Paulie is a grade A HOE, Broner took his belt and his girl!

[tokon]

How come none of the guys that were beaten by Pac have ever accused him?

Note that not a lot of fighters, trainers, managers, etc call out other fighters, even though most people on the "inside" know who is doing what.

That's not because there arent many fighters cheating with illegal PEDs, it because there are SO MANY of them cheatinfg and the testing procedures are a joke!

[Scipio2009]

There's factors you aren't considering when fighters move up such as height, length, bone density, punching power and so on. Gonzalez isn't huring people at his current weight class. Manny with all the testing Floyd demanded was still able to rock Floyd who has a SOLID chin. Hell Manny has to eat just to fight at 147, he can EASILY make 140, probably even 135 if he really wanted to. Paulie is a grade A HOE, Broner took his belt and his girl!

Pacquiao's frame is what it is; he's bigger than Gonzalaz but he doesn't dwarf him. After puberty was over, Pacquiao still went up 20lbs, with no apparent hit to his power or explosiveness until Floyd made it a point to demanding that both fighters be tested.

Floyd was an utterly destructive power puncher at 130lbs; by the time Floyd got up to 140lbs, he was a real solid puncher (who could get you out of there when throwing in combination).

Pacquiao is honestly supposed to carry up his power (and increase it) 35lbs without any impediment?

This side of Tommy Hearns (who was a physical marvel at 6'1, 78" reach, as a welterweight; and even he had his limits), I don't think that you can point to a single other fighter who's had anywhere near that amount of move-up without having to adapt their style to account for the bigger opponents dealing with his skill as he moves up.

[HeadShots]

you don't think Roman Gonzales is doing PED's?



you think Malignaggi isn't doing PED's with memo as his nutritionist?




they all are. Pacquiao is just more genetically gifted. it's as simple as that.

[HeadShots]

Berto is a proven PED cheat. why he couldn't do what Pac did?

Mosley is a proven PED cheat. why he couldn't do what Pac did?

Mickey Bey juiced out of his eyeballs couldn't beat John Molina(30X healthy man's test level). Why didn't he become Pacquiao?


WHY?

[Sup]

I love when Paulie goes in on Pacquiao, it's like he's on crack. His eyes get so wide and he becomes so passionate about his PED theories. Veins all popping out and shit.

[Larry the boss]

But, but, but...you have no answer or argument Larry and neither does Paulie. You and Meth can't provide any factual argument for why you guys think Pac was on PEDs. Only because Floyd said so. He paid millions out of court because he had no proof, and neither do you Pac haters. Of course your boy was caught with an illegal IV, nothing sketchy there huh.

Manny has himself to blame man..he is the one who made the fuss over drug testing..i dont even talk about ped's concerning Manny