Originally posted by abracada
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I'm beginning to doubt Prime Tyson could have beaten Prime Lewis.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostRemember that while Tyson may have been shot Lewis was also way past prime and older than Tyson. Maybe that flush punch he landed on the old Lewis would not have landed on the prime Lewis.
But as I said, can’t recall the details but I do remember thinking that Tyson had gassed about in round 2 and was running on fumes thereafter
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Originally posted by Fangedgrowl View PostHolyfield and Lewis both beat Mike . They just had his number in different ways. Evander had fast hands and could take a great shot . He would counter Mke and he wasnt afraid of Mike. Lewis awas a style matchup nightmare . Jab, right hand , hold.
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People have to understand the current dilemma with the modern Heavyweights, some guys are just too big for the weight class.
The Heavyweights from Ali's era were about 215 lbs, in Tyson's era they weighed 220 lbs. Now we have guys that are a solid 250 lbs and over 6'5'' in height, that's a whole new weight class.
So I'll put this plainly, Lennox Lewis is a Super Heavyweight (250 lbs, 6'5''and up) whereas Mike was the standard Heavyweight (220 lbs, 5'10'' - 6'4''). Mike loses even his prime because he was too small for Lennox.
Lennox Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko changed the Heavyweight game forever, they ushered in the Super Heavyweight class.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostTyson at his very best would have beaten LL a couple of times in 5 fights.
They could beat each other. But at LL best, maybe Tyson wouldn't beat Lennox. So theres no definite answer. Depend what mood each other is in on the night
This. I can see it going either way.
A lot of people here writing Tyson off, Lennox proved he could be KOed, prime Tyson has that chance to KO anyone.
People are forgetting that Tyson fought Lennox 13 years after Spinks. That Tyson was a shell of even the Tyson that fought Holyfield.
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Originally posted by D4thincarnation View PostThere is a reason why Bowe and Tyson ducked Lewis.
Because they knew Lewis had their numbers.
Mentally weak.
Youre forgetting the part where Lewis didnt play with Don King. Don King wouldnt get you a fight with his guys unless you signed a multi fight contract and Lewis was too smart for Don King's bullchit.
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Originally posted by el*** View PostYoure forgetting the part where Lewis didnt play with Don King. Don King wouldnt get you a fight with his guys unless you signed a multi fight contract and Lewis was too smart for Don King's bullchit.
Tyson and Bowe both gave up their belts rather than fight Lewis
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Originally posted by dannnnn View PostWhy, because Jim Lampley said it?
Prime Tyson would have been kryptonite to Lewis. Post-prison 90's Tyson was a shell of his former self (flat-footed, plodding, no combinations), and the guy who eventually did fight Lewis was a shell of a shell.
Yet go watch the post-fight interview between him and Merchant after Douglas beat Tyson and Lampley says that "That wasn't Tyson in there for who head movement was important, I do believe the change of trainer affected him..." Said it right into the camera. He's getting senile.
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