Who's the slave? Finkel won't let 'our fighter' go.

[kafkod]

That's WBC WBA IBF and his raggamuffin.

I didn't believe that comment from him you have in your sig was real till I clicked on it.

But yeah, he really did say that!

[kafkod]

this thread is way out of line and needs to get deleted BostonGuy


i get thaty these people are british and don't understand race relations in america, but you can't be talking about which black man is more like a slave dude. what the actual f#ck.


wilder is way out of line when he draws lines between slavery and the management of a fighter, but that doesn't make it ok for you to speculate about which one is more like a slave. i hope your ban is short but long enouhg to teach you a lesson, this thread just isn't OK.

No, Wilder shouldn't have said that, but he did, and he said it on a public platform for the world to see.

And furthermore, only an American would even concieve of viewing a business relationship between a black man and a white man in those terms.

You Americans should address the fcked up attitude towards race which permeates and pollutes your whole culture, rather than trying to stop non Americans from talking about it.

[Scopedog]

Circlejerk threads like that are baffling to me. As boxing fans you should just want to see your fighter beat his rivals in the ring, not celebrating every promotional power play that makes fights less likely like it actually means something to you. It's not enough for the fight to get signed for you people, the fight has to get signed and someone also has to get humiliated at the bargaining table, or else you give your approval to one side using money as an excuse not to fight. There's a lot of people who act like that on here, and I'm certain that they've either developed some kind of warped mindset from spending too much time arguing with people on here, or they're legitimately paid off. There's a few posters on here like that, who spend all their time arguing why their fighter should get a fatter paycheck and you never see in threads that aren't on that specific topic.

[SeGoodland]

You're lying.

He didn't turn down 15. Hearn refused to do the fight in 2018. Had Hearn been willing to do the fight in 2018, Wilder was willing to accept 15.

Also, Wilder didn't fight for 7.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/30/wild...uperfight.html

Wilder stands to earn $14 million for the December 1 showdow

I know how much you like to change what I said in order to make it seem like you have ALL the facts.

Wilder ACCEPTED the offer for $15m, the same way that Joshua said he would accept $50m. There is no escaping it. You can spout off all you want about Hearn not sending a contract blah blah blah. If you consistently go on about Joshua ducking because of the $50m, then you cannot escape the truth of Wilder accepting the offer from Hearn and then not going ahead with the fight. THE SAME THING HAPPENED

$7m, or $8m or whatever. He turned down $15m to fight for less money. That's the point.

What's even better is Wilder then turned down a 60/40 offer after the Fury fight and now he is left with no fight! So now he's turned down about $50m!

[N/A]

Wilder ACCEPTED the offer for $15m, the same way that Joshua said he would accept $50m.

Wilder accepted 15 million as long as the fight took place in 2018. Hearn sent a contract with no mention of when the fight would be and no language barring interim fights. So the contract sent did not reflect what had been agreed to.

In that instance, Wilder didn't change his mind about anything. Hearn changed the offer.

Whereas Joshua asked for 50 million and then changed his mind when his bluff was called. In both instances, it was the Joshua side that was acting dishonorably.

[lfc19titles]

Wilder accepted 15 million as long as the fight took place in 2018. Hearn sent a contract with no mention of when the fight would be and no language barring interim fights. So the contract sent did not reflect what had been agreed to.

In that instance, Wilder didn't change his mind about anything. Hearn changed the offer.

Whereas Joshua asked for 50 million and then changed his mind when his bluff was called. In both instances, it was the Joshua side that was acting dishonorably.

Lies

They confirmed the fight was next. This was stated multiple times. Team wilder never wanted it

Wilder and co couldn’t even provide a contract. Heck no 50m offer came Haymon or showtime. It came from wilder lmao, this has been confirmed by rat boy in showtime

Wilder made 7m for fury, you are posting what if articles. Fury confirmed he made 7m and it was said multiple times the fight is 50-50

No amount of fake news can change the truth

You are pathetic

[N/A]

Lies

They confirmed the fight was next. This was stated multiple times.

You can state something all you want, but if you then refuse to put it in the contract, the contract is what will be binding. If you have a written contract, you are ruled by the four corners of the agreement. Nothing said orally before the contract was signed will matter.

[kafkod]

Wilder accepted 15 million as long as the fight took place in 2018. Hearn sent a contract with no mention of when the fight would be and no language barring interim fights. So the contract sent did not reflect what had been agreed to.

In that instance, Wilder didn't change his mind about anything. Hearn changed the offer.

Whereas Joshua asked for 50 million and then changed his mind when his bluff was called. In both instances, it was the Joshua side that was acting dishonorably.

Hearn got an extension on the deadline for closing a deal with Povetkin because he told the WBA that AJ intended to unify with Wilder before fighting Povetkin.

Are you seriously suggesting that a prominent boxing promoter would tell blatent and preposterous lies, on the record, to sanctioning orgs, other promoters, broadcasting networks, and the media .. when all it would take to expose his lies and put him out of business for good is one signature on a contract that he himself drew up and posted?

I realise you are none too bright .. but you ain't that dumb!

[N/A]

Are you seriously suggesting that a prominent boxing promoter would tell blatent and preposterous lies, on the record, to sanctioning orgs, other promoters, broadcasting networks, and the media ..

Dude, you're literally describing exactly what Frank Warren just did.

This kind of bait and switch stuff happens in boxing all the time.

[kafkod]

You can state something all you want, but if you then refuse to put it in the contract, the contract is what will be binding. If you have a written contract, you are ruled by the four corners of the agreement. Nothing said orally before the contract was signed will matter.

Hearn formally petitioned the WBA to extend the deadline for sealing a deal Povetkin so he could negotiate a unification fight with Wilder, which would take place before their mando. The WBA granted him permission to do it.

That most definitely does matter. If it had turned out that Hearn was lying and playing games with Wilder's team, Povetkin's team, and the WBA, he would have been sued out of business.