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  • #81
    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    Why do you say that? It's true. He won't fight Wilder. He won't fight Ortiz. He won't fight anyone who he perceives as threat to him. He just recently knocked out a 40 year old, washed up, shot fighter, with no stamina, reflexes, chin or balance and who was off his juice.
    You're mad you are. Ortiz is off the juice. Ortiz has the worst stamina in the division. Ortiz looks and performs like he's older. They are both the same age. Ortiz is about 5x slower than Povetkin. Povetkin has much better reflexes.

    So yeah, everything you just said is the opposite of truth and reality.

    How does Ortiz have a better chin?

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
      Bro I’m a big fan of Joshua and I’m not scared to admit if Deontay lands on his Whiskers it’s all over but I genuinely believe Joshua will bully him and knock him out. What is puzzling to me though is that I know some of you Wilder fans box and box to reasonable standard. Yes there may have been a few sparring partners that you were anxious about but no one that you were scared to get in the ring with.

      I’m not even a good amateur but I enjoy sparring. I’m 6 ft 3 and 220 lbs.

      A big puncher especially with just a right hand ,one two is nothing to fear. He makes so many mistakes as a boxer it’s unreal . He looks so bad at times that I feel I can outbox him and I’m trash.( when it gets tough for me in there I purposely head butt or bite off eyebrows)

      What’s the worst that can happen? Joshua gets caught with a lucky shot and he goes to sleep. Povetkin will be a harder fight than Wilder. He is clumsy and easy to outbox. Wilder has a punchers chance and that’s it.

      Again I totally understand anyone thinking Wilder will knock out Joshua because that’s what he is a knockout specialist. As for Ortiz he is a great boxer but old. If he was 20 years younger or between the ages of 35-40 he would have beat Wilder.

      Povetkin in his entire career has never been stopped but now he is chinny.
      Unfortunately, you misunderstood my entire point. My question was referring to Ortiz and Povetkin. At the current stage of their careers do you sincerely believe that chinny, no defense no stamina, Povetkin stands any chance against Luis Ortiz now? Yes or now? I wasn't referring to AJ and Ortiz just Povetkin vs Ortiz. Do you believe that the 222 lbs off the juice Povetkin can beat King Kong Ortiz now at this later stage of his career?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
        Since when did we start talking about Ortiz as if he is more than what he is.
        Just because wilder KO doesn't make him that good. His resume is whack.
        Nowhere near podvetkin to be honest.
        OK, what about today and now? Who wins in a boxing contest? Who has more left in the gas tank? Luis Ortiz or Alexander Povetkin? Who wins in a head to head contest in 2018 Luis Ortiz or Alexander Povetkin?

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        • #84
          "Dillian deserves it more than Fury because he's been consistent and Wilder because he's the champion."
          This is exactly right. If Fury beats Wilder then he can talk.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
            You're mad you are. Ortiz is off the juice. Ortiz has the worst stamina in the division. Ortiz looks and performs like he's older. They are both the same age. Ortiz is about 5x slower than Povetkin. Povetkin has much better reflexes.

            So yeah, everything you just said is the opposite of truth and reality.

            How does Ortiz have a better chin?
            When Ortiz was off the juice he nearly fucked Deontay Wilder up. He almost knocked him out that's why Povetkin would be a sitting duck for him. That's why he or Joshua will never fight King Kong because Ortiz has much more left in the tank than Povetkin like: Chin, stamina, reflexes, balance, defense and punching power.

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            • #86
              This whole scenario is irrelevant anyway. If Fury beats Wilder then they will have a rematch anyway.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
                Modicum of decency and morality I love it
                Yes, it's true. You are one of the most fair minded and unbiased posters on here. Even though you are British and a huge Anthony Joshua fan but I still respect you. So here's cheers for you also buddy. It's well deserved.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
                  Bro I’m a big fan of Joshua and I’m not scared to admit if Deontay lands on his Whiskers it’s all over but I genuinely believe Joshua will bully him and knock him out. What is puzzling to me though is that I know some of you Wilder fans box and box to reasonable standard. Yes there may have been a few sparring partners that you were anxious about but no one that you were scared to get in the ring with.

                  I’m not even a good amateur but I enjoy sparring. I’m 6 ft 3 and 220 lbs.

                  A big puncher especially with just a right hand ,one two is nothing to fear. He makes so many mistakes as a boxer it’s unreal . He looks so bad at times that I feel I can outbox him and I’m trash.( when it gets tough for me in there I purposely head butt or bite off eyebrows)

                  What’s the worst that can happen? Joshua gets caught with a lucky shot and he goes to sleep. Povetkin will be a harder fight than Wilder. He is clumsy and easy to outbox. Wilder has a punchers chance and that’s it.

                  Again I totally understand anyone thinking Wilder will knock out Joshua because that’s what he is a knockout specialist. As for Ortiz he is a great boxer but old. If he was 20 years younger or between the ages of 35-40 he would have beat Wilder.

                  Povetkin in his entire career has never been stopped but now he is chinny.
                  Not sure where the presumption that Wilder is chinny comes from. Its proven that a fighter can improve his ability to take a punch over time through exercise and experience (improve). Also the presumption that he can't box is a bit off given his performance vs Stiverne I and Duhappas. The concern for Joshua is the chin given his defense vs aggressive fighters for which Wilder can sometimes be. Regarding Povetkin, his career post meldonium is questionable. More importantly, his resume outside of a UD vs Klitschko is mediocre. Saying he hasn't been stopped before says little given the amount of times Klitschko put him down and the fact that Price also put him down.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by noelanthony View Post
                    bro i’m a big fan of joshua and i’m not scared to admit if deontay lands on his whiskers it’s all over but i genuinely believe joshua will bully him and knock him out. What is puzzling to me though is that i know some of you wilder fans box and box to reasonable standard. Yes there may have been a few sparring partners that you were anxious about but no one that you were scared to get in the ring with.

                    I’m not even a good amateur but i enjoy sparring. I’m 6 ft 3 and 220 lbs.

                    A big puncher especially with just a right hand ,one two is nothing to fear. He makes so many mistakes as a boxer it’s unreal . He looks so bad at times that i feel i can outbox him and i’m trash.( when it gets tough for me in there i purposely head butt or bite off eyebrows)

                    what’s the worst that can happen? Joshua gets caught with a lucky shot and he goes to sleep. Povetkin will be a harder fight than wilder. He is clumsy and easy to outbox. Wilder has a punchers chance and that’s it.

                    Again i totally understand anyone thinking wilder will knock out joshua because that’s what he is a knockout specialist. As for ortiz he is a great boxer but old. if he was 20 years younger or between the ages of 35-40 he would have beat wilder.

                    Povetkin in his entire career has never been stopped but now he is chinny.
                    he was 37 or 38 right??????

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                    • #90
                      If Fury beats Wilder Whyte definitely doesn't deserve it more. Wilder>Parker all day.

                      But yea we get it Hearn wants Joshua vs Whyte II so thats what we are getting.

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