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I think WK beats Anthony Joshua
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostThe odd makers are ridiculous if that's true. Anyway it'll get closer as time grows near.
But betting odds alone do not set up an upset. We have to look t the reality of it and no one who understands boxing would count out Wlad or have him as a massive underdog.
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Originally posted by ScottWeiland View PostI remember when it was Price and before that Chisora. Try to read that without laughing...
I don't know man, there is something about the air & water in UK that makes guys hype their fighters like the reincarnation of Louis/Ali.. Heck they didn't even try to claim Lennox as one of their own until he hanged em up..
Well we'll be here won't we when the so called "upset" happens..
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Originally posted by hogey View PostWill be a 2-3 round massacre poor old Wlad is in a world of trouble here. Against a man just as big and strong, and with equal reach he fights a man with all the tools to nullify his jab, grab and lean tactics. Even a prime Wlad would be in the brown stuff against AJ, this faded version will be blown away and pretty quickly. Ultimately at no point in his career would Wlad's suspect mandible stand up to the kind of power Joshua brings, so not sure how anyone thinks an aging slowing version of Wlad has a snowball in hell's chance. This fight will be a huge anti-climax, and in the aftermath all we will hear is how did anyone seriously think that Wlad so old and bad he lost to Tyson Fury 18 months ago while barely throwing a punch really had a chance against a young monstrous punching lion like Joshua.
I think he took this to pass the torch to the guy he thinks is his rightful heir to the throne and keep it away from Fury, whom he has no respect for. Simple as that.
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I can remember people thinking Ali could turn back time against Holmes and even against Berbeck, the realists know though you cant cheat old father time, let alone against a man who may have even beat him in his prime. Wlad was a very good fighter in a poor era, but hand on heart i cant think of one fighter he has beaten that would start as favourite against Joshua. Strange though i have managed to quantify why i think Joshua will win comfortably, yet most of those disagreeing dont seem to be able to explain how a rusty old champion who never had the best chin and could barely throw a punch in his last fight beats Joshua, it seems to me the only argument put forward by and large is he is from England so over hyped and you must be a casual not to agree with us.Last edited by hogey; 02-15-2017, 10:15 AM.
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It is Possible, you can't just push guys like Wlad and Pacquiao out the door, these young guys have the SHOW AND PROVE and that goes for all of them. Yeah sure it is fun to Crown them and PROJECT what we THINK they can potentially be but they have to go out and make it official. I THINK it is Joshua's Time but he has to go out and PROVE that it is!
With Wlad, the pressure if off of him because people think he is OLD AND DONE so he really has NOTHING TO LOSE now. Legacy is Sealed so losing doesn't hurt him at all.
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Wladimir being schooled by Fury doesn't mean he's shot, he was just beaten by the superior fighter. Joshua does not possess Fury's skills.
The fight before Fury, he didn't look particularly great again Jennings (the fight was away from home), but he still won every round, and the fight before that, he knocked Pulev (arguably a top 3 HW right now) into next week.
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Originally posted by hogey View PostI can remember people thinking Ali could turn back time against Holmes and even against Berbeck, the realists know though you cant cheat old father time, let alone against a man who may have even beat him in his prime. Wlad was a very good fighter in a poor era, but hand on heart i cant think of one fighter he has beaten that would start as favourite against Joshua. Strange though i have managed to quantify why i think Joshua will win comfortably, yet most of those disagreeing dont seem to be able to explain how a rusty old champion who never had the best chin and could barely throw a punch in his last fight beats Joshua, it seems to me the only argument put forward by and large is he is from England so over hyped and you must be a casual not to agree with us.
Everything else you said is correct !
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Originally posted by denium View PostWladimir being schooled by Fury doesn't mean he's shot, he was just beaten by the superior fighter. Joshua does not possess Fury's skills.
The fight before Fury, he didn't look particularly great again Jennings (the fight was away from home), but he still won every round, and the fight before that, he knocked Pulev (arguably a top 3 HW right now) into next week.
Love how you ignored the bet that was offered to you on page 14 like it never happened, don't seem as confident
as you're making out
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