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Old 08-24-2018, 01:41 PM #1
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Default Cohen testified not knowing about Trump Tower meeting, yet claims to know Trump did?

So last fall, in October 2017, Michael Cohen testified in front of members of the Senate Intelligence Committee that he was not aware of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting, prior to seeing it on the news himself.



Here is a joint press release of Senators Richard Burr (North Carolina) and Mark R. Warner (Virginia)

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Senate Intel Committee Statement on Testimony of Michael Cohen

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-NC) and Vice Chairman Mark Warner (D-VA) released the following statement:

“We have obviously followed today’s reporting about Michael Cohen with great interest. He appears to be pleading guilty to very serious charges, however, we have no insight into any agreements he and his legal team have allegedly reached with prosecutors in New York.

“What we can say is that we recently reengaged with Mr. Cohen and his team following press reports that suggested he had advance knowledge of the June 2016 meeting between campaign officials and Russian lawyers at Trump Tower. Mr. Cohen had testified before the Committee that he was not aware of the meeting prior to its disclosure in the press last summer. As such, the Committee inquired of Mr. Cohen’s legal team as to whether Mr. Cohen stood by his testimony. They responded that he did stand by his testimony.

“We hope that today’s developments and Mr. Cohen’s plea agreement will not preclude his appearance before our Committee as needed for our ongoing investigation.”
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And yet, since being arrested and investigated, and being well aware of the kind of trouble that he was in, Cohen turned into a snitchy rat, and started claiming that Trump knew of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting in advance. Here are the reports on it from CNN and CBS.

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Cohen claims Trump knew in advance of 2016 Trump Tower meeting

Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, claims that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton, sources with knowledge tell CNN. Cohen is willing to make that assertion to special counsel Robert Mueller, the sources said.

Cohen's claim would contradict repeated denials by Trump, Donald Trump Jr., their lawyers and other administration officials who have said that the President knew nothing about the Trump Tower meeting until he was approached about it by The New York Times in July 2017.

Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources.

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President Trump's former attorney, Michael Cohen , is willing to tell special counsel Robert Mueller that the president knew in advance of a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting involving Mr. Trump's son, top campaign officials and a Russian lawyer, CBS News' Paula Reid has confirmed, though Cohen has no evidence to offer that corroborates his claim.

Donald Trump Jr., Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya, a gathering arranged by Trump Jr. because he believed Veselnitskaya had damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

When the meeting was first reported by the New York Times in July 2017, Mr. Trump said he had only learned about it "two or three days ago," that is, in 2017, about a year after the meeting had occurred.

CNN first reported Thursday Cohen's claim that Mr. Trump knew about the meeting in advance. According to CNN, Mr. Trump also approved the meeting.
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So this begs the following question to be asked:

How could Cohen, under oath, say that he himself did not know of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting before learning about it on the news, yet a year later, when he was being investigated an facing many years in prison, claim that he can knows that Trump, in fact, did have knowledge about the meeting in advance?



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On the other hand, Cohen also flipped on the alleged affair hush money payments, and Trump's knowledge of them. He earlier stated that he did it all himself, and neither Trump nor his campaign had prior knowledge:

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Michael Cohen in February 2018

"In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford," Michael Cohen said in a statement. "Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly."
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“Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.
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But of course, now that Cohen is facing a decade, or more, in jail, he is again changing his story saying that not only Trump knew, but he was the one who ordered him to do it...


And of course, how can a lawyer who secretly recorded and kept the recordings of his clients, as well as other people such as CNN reporter Chris Cuomo, with whom Cohen had a 2 hour "off the record" interview with, and assured him there was not recording, possibly for future blackmail opportunities, be taken seriously by anybody?
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So last fall, in October 2017, Michael Cohen testified in front of members of the Senate Intelligence Committee that he was not aware of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting, prior to seeing it on the news himself.



Here is a joint press release of Senators Richard Burr (North Carolina) and Mark R. Warner (Virginia)


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And yet, since being arrested and investigated, and being well aware of the kind of trouble that he was in, Cohen turned into a snitchy rat, and started claiming that Trump knew of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting in advance. Here are the reports on it from CNN and CBS.


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So this begs the following question to be asked:

How could Cohen, under oath, say that he himself did not know of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting before learning about it on the news, yet a year later, when he was being investigated an facing many years in prison, claim that he can knows that Trump, in fact, did have knowledge about the meeting in advance?



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On the other hand, Cohen also flipped on the alleged affair hush money payments, and Trump's knowledge of them. He earlier stated that he did it all himself, and neither Trump nor his campaign had prior knowledge:


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But of course, now that Cohen is facing a decade, or more, in jail, he is again changing his story saying that not only Trump knew, but he was the one who ordered him to do it...


And of course, how can a lawyer who secretly recorded and kept the recordings of his clients, as well as other people such as CNN reporter Chris Cuomo, with whom Cohen had a 2 hour "off the record" interview with, and assured him there was not recording, possibly for future blackmail opportunities, be taken seriously by anybody?




It doesn’t matter how much you whine, it doesn’t change the fact that the evidence is overwhelmingly obvious that Trump and his cronies committed crimes against the state.

They are falling like dominos.
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It doesn’t matter how much you whine, it doesn’t change the fact that the evidence is overwhelmingly obvious that Trump and his cronies committed crimes against the state.

They are falling like dominos.
So instead of discussing what was posted, notably Cohen and Mueller's total lack of credibility, you just go saying falling like dominoes?

Manafort and Cohen are unrelated matters, even though the stories happened to come out on the same day.

Manafort got caught for his dealings with the Ukraine, almost a decade ago. Not related to Trump's presidency.

Cohen the Rat did not declare an alleged $20 million from his taxi business loans, as well as other back and tax fraud. Not related to Trump's presidency.

Who else?

Papadopoulos was accused of allegedly lying to the FBI about a professor who might have had contact with officials that might have had "dirt" on Hillary? Bunch of nothing for which Mueller recommended 6 months and a fine. Since when is getting dirt on a political opponent during an election period anything new?

What else is there?

No matter how much the media scream and yells "impeach". Nothing will hurt Trump from it, except maybe a hit to morale and ego.

Much ado about nothing. That's all this is.

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So instead of discussing what was posted, notably Mueller's total lack of credibility, you just go saying falling like dominoes?

Manafort and Cohen are unrelated matters, even though the stories happened to come out on the same day.

Manafort got caught for his dealings with the Ukraine, almost a decade ago. Not related to Trump's presidency.

Cohen the Rat did not declare an alleged $20 million from his taxi business loans, as well as other back and tax fraud. Not related to Trump's presidency.

Who else?

Papadopoulos was accused of allegedly lying to the FBI about a professor who might have had contact with officials that might have had "dirt" on Hillary? Bunch of nothing for which Mueller recommended 6 months and a fine. Since when is getting dirt on a political opponent during an election period anything new?

What else is there?

No matter how much the media scream and yells "impeach". Nothing will hurt Trump from it, except maybe a hit to morale and ego.

Much ado about nothing. That's all this is.







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You sure present some strong arguments.

I'll be waiting for the next TYT video you post...





The guy is a class A idiot, he's on TV saying flipping should be illegal, he's talking about how crimes shouldn't be crimes and how he gets legal advice from watching TV.


Not even mobsters would go on TV and talk about how rats should not be able to flip, showing the public their guilt. If there were no crimes then there would be no flipping.


Keep on defending the idiot, you only make yourself look sillier.
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The guy is a class A idiot, he's on TV saying flipping should be illegal, he's talking about how crimes shouldn't be crimes and how he gets legal advice from watching TV.


Not even mobsters would go on TV and talk about how rats should not be able to flip, showing the public their guilt. If there were no crimes then there would be no flipping.


Keep on defending the idiot, you only make yourself look sillier.
Perhaps your TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) is impairing your judgment. Was President Trump referring to the injustice practice of prosecutors offering commuted sentences for convicted criminals if they can compose as a material witness against a target? Or was he referring to a criminal element being good and people siding with law enforcement as bad?

Mueller's probe is about intimidating Trump associates into composing as material witnesses against President Trump. It is about unseating him from the presidency. The premise of it being about investigating Russian collusion in the 2016 general election is a big fat lie. The crimes leveraged against Trump associates are either perjury traps in an untruth told to the FBI or crimes committed a decade ago that have no association with private citizen Donald Trump or any crimes, including Russian collusion, in the 2016 election. In Manafort's case, the FBI had already collected the criminal evidence against him years ago. Long before his tenure as Presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump's campaign manager to ensure the nomination wasn't stolen at the convention. Also who interviewed Michael Flynn? Was it Peter Strzok? If Peter Strzok was thrown off the Mueller probe for an assumed bias against the investigations target, then what does that mean for his investigation during 2016 absolving Hillary Clinton's team of everything and then targeting individuals in Trump's transition team? Interesting..

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Called it. Lanny Davis confirmed it even. Yet none of the mainstream media had issued any corrections to their stories, notably CNN, who ran the original story.


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Cohen’s Lawyer Walks Back Confirmation of CNN’s ‘Bombshell’ 2016 Trump Tower Meeting Story

Back on July 27th, CNN made the bombshell claim that President Donald Trump “knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton.” CNN cited unnamed sources for providing the information, but those sources said Michael Cohen, Trump’s former attorney, was able to implicate the president. We made note of their reporting here.

Fast forward to the end of August. It turns out the bombshell might not be true, at least according to Lanny Davis, Cohen’s attorney, who is doing a considerable degree of backtracking.

The New York Post says it called Davis back in July to confirm what CNN was saying. Davis, back then, confirmed the accuracy of the CNN reporting, but said he could only do so as an anonymous source. Now, he’s apologizing.

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Good thing Donald Trump already verified the meeting and that his son JR was there to get political dirt from foreign government.
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