The all new, Mayweather/Pac Master Discussion Thread - The fight that will never be.

[RisAri0]

I whole heartedly believe that Floyd can beat Pacquiao like most do... but, I do believe he doesn't want to go through all that pain and agony to do so. Just ask Tim Bradley, he came out with a W against Pac... W as in Wheelchair!

[Bullrider]

Of course, he'll become the laughing stock of the world. Just imagine being the only boxer who didn't have the guts to fight Paq. It's not like this fight comes with little money. It is awashed with cash. It involves hundreds of millions of dollars. For a guy who calls himself Money, it will never make sense in the end for him.

[lparm]

Of course, he'll become the laughing stock of the world. Just imagine being the only boxer who didn't have the guts to fight Paq. It's not like this fight comes with little money. It is awashed with cash. It involves hundreds of millions of dollars. For a guy who calls himself Money, it will never make sense in the end for him.

Sadly I get the feeling Floyd thinks his 0 is more important than what the fans want even if it is truck loads of money involved. Bad move for his legacy and his ego. He will regret not taking a chance. He needs Manny more than Manny needs him.

[-Kev-]

I think his ATG status has to be seriously questioned. He has beaten some very good fighters like Cotto, Castillo, etc and despite a few criticisms of guys being weight drained (dlh dropping from mw) or blown up (Jmm lw to ww) Floyd has never been in serious jeapardy of losing.

But his main challenger for years has been the global icon Manny Pacquiao. Now we've all heard the back and forth demands about blood and steroids and money but the fact is Manny is willing to make it happen while so far Floyd is not.

If he retires without ever fighting Pac IMO Floyd's credentials as an ATG will be scrutinized. He could retire and still be a great fighter of this era, but without Manny any discussion of all time great is misplaced.

De La Hoya had just destroyed WBC 154-pound champion Ricardo Mayorga. And Floyd was coming up from 147. What the hell kind of criticism is that, did you just make that up?

Pacquiao is not Mayweather's main challenger. Pacquiao and Marquez are eacother's main challengers. Floyd's was actually Mosley and Cotto, and now it's Martinez and Canelo. Pacquiao has to take care of Marquez first.

[DeadLikeMe]

I'm not even sure if Pac and Floyd are top 50 atgs as things are now.

[Gino Ros]

PACQUIAO's Manager Koncz Disputes Manny's 55/45 Offer

Per FightHype:

PACQUIAO AND KONCZ DIFFER ON EXPLANATION OF 45/55 STANCE

By Ben Thompson | September 22, 2012

According to 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, if negotiations ever take place again for the long-awaited mega-fight with undefeated pound-for-pound champion Floyd Mayweather, he's willing to accept a smaller percentage of the guaranteed purse in order to make the fight a reality. During a recent appearance on ESPN's First Take, Pacquiao said, "It's okay for me if he gets the higher percentage," recalling that when they spoke on the phone earlier this year, he informed Mayweather that he would agree to a 45/55 split of the profits.

Of course, not longer after both fighters had that conversation back in January, Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, made it clear that they would accept nothing less than an equal 50/50 share, while his adviser, Michael Koncz, would clarify that their offer of a 45/55 split meant the winner would be awarded the higher percentage. Now, it seems like Pacquiao is trying to explain his stance that he indeed has no problem with accepting a smaller percentage, but once again, conflicting reports from his adviser suggest that he may not have the final say in the matter.

According to Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times, not long after Pacquiao's latest comments on First Take, Koncz again clarified that Pacquiao was referring to their original offer that would award the winner 55% while the loser would get 45%. That explanation appears to contradict Pacquiao's statements. In fact, as Pugmire tells it, Pacquiao would reiterate to his publicist on Friday that he would indeed take 45% win or lose. The question is, does his promoter agree with those comments?

Judging from the explanation that Koncz gave to Pugmire, it looks like Pacquiao may be on a different page than his adviser and the man that he's signed to. One would think that Koncz would have clarification on what Pacquiao is or is not willing to do before speaking on his behalf, yet his explanation of the 45/55 stances seems vastly different than what Pacquiao is saying. Furthermore, any time Pacquiao has ever hinted at taking a smaller purse, Bob Arum has been quick to shoot down the notion, making it crystal clear that anything less than 50/50 is unacceptable. It will be interesting to hear what Bob Arum has to say if Manny Pacquiao is truly willing to accept a smaller purse. Something tells me that he won't be quite as willing as Pacquiao appears to be.

[come out dancin]

smh we all know money mays resume trumps on pacfrauds and listen up here son everybody in boxing already knows that money may would make easy easy easy work of the pacfraud. i got money may by KO pac aint go no skill he just throws a lot of punches and he always open for dat straight right

[-Kev-]

A guy who's supposed to have 6 losses. What a main challenger

[lparm]

De La Hoya had just destroyed WBC 154-pound champion Ricardo Mayorga. And Floyd was coming up from 147. What the hell kind of criticism is that, did you just make that up?

Pacquiao is not Mayweather's main challenger. Pacquiao and Marquez are eacother's main challengers. Floyd's was actually Mosley and Cotto, and now it's Martinez and Canelo. Pacquiao has to take care of Marquez first.

Wait wait. So Floyd moving up 7lbs to 154 to fight a guy that had fought at 160 is cool but Manny gets bashed for moving up 12 lbs from 135 to fight dlh at 147?

The bias on nsb is crazy.

[Frank Ducketts]

lol at these flowmos who are in damage control once again. Can't accept the fact that their idol is a spineless boxer hehehe!

It's entertaining to see how creative these fanboys can be defending their idol.. They can't accept the truth so they make up their own truths hehehe!

Face it boys your idol is cowering in a rat hole somewhere.. maybe in a small bunker where Saddam Hussein used to hide where he won't be found and heckled at hehehe!

Your boy needs to grow some manhood lol

The rule is armchair fans can't question a fighters heart. You can use your free speech, but again, you sound like a fool. Pacquiao, promote that 4th fight with Marquez, lmao!