Joshua's Legacy Forever Tainted

[D4thincarnation]

AJ is only 28.... your acting like he is 39 and over the hill, give the man some time, or are you also going to concede that wilder ducked vitali and hence his legacy is forever questioned since he waited for Vitali to go into poltics before going for hid belt?

When you are the champ, there should be no excuses.

Wilder was very green when Vitali was still fighting

[KillaCamNZ]

Yet Joshua makes excuses for not fighting Wilder

Why is that?

It's all he-said she-said. Wilder fans will defend Wilder. Joshua fans will defend Joshua. That argument has gone around in circles a thousand times.

You know what is fact, however? 40-0, and ***** all proved along the way. Wilder's flimsy record is in the books, and there is absolutely no denying it, or getting around it.

There is nothing you can do to defend him. Go on, try.

[D4thincarnation]

It's all he-said she-said. Wilder fans will defend Wilder. Joshua fans will defend Joshua. That argument has gone around in circles a thousand times.

You know what is fact, however? 40-0, and ***** all proved along the way. Wilder's flimsy record is in the books, and there is absolutely no denying it, or getting around it.

There is nothing you can do to defend him. Go on, try.

All irrelevant. Wilder wants Joshua, tried to make the fight and Joshua and Hearn didn't want it.

He just signed a big deal with Eddie worth 100 million. It doesn't matter if he fights bums or the top fighters he get that money for his fight deal.

Fury and Wilder are in the game for the glory. Joshua is here for the money. Eddie and Joshua both thought the Wilder fight was too much of a risk as a lost would cost them tens of millions.

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Wilder offered up a $50 million for Joshua. Eddie turned it down.

If Wilder vs Fury gets a million PPV then Wilder can demand more money as he will be have generated more cash.

Joshua wanted the fight in the UK which was his choice considering he's the A side. Wilder wasn't exactly getting peanuts to come over here. It was by far his biggest payday but he still turned it down. Wilder is so delusional that he called 15 mill "Crackhead money" even though he usually fights for 1.5 mill. Haha.

It won't sell a million on PPV, don't be so stupid. And besides, this fight will do better than Wilder usually does because it has Fury attached to it. Do you think Wilder will still make those kind of paydays outside of Fury or Joshua? Get a brain will you. Wilder will go back to peanuts fighting on basic Showtime. No one would PPV Wilder against his usual stream of bums.

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He is stepping up to the lineal heavyweight champ.

Who is far from being in shape and looked like **** against 2 bums. So yeah, Wilder ain't stepping up to ****. Fury looks old and shot out there. Don't pretend otherwise.

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Fighting them all in his backyard, with Eddie getting the judges and ref on side.

Did Lennox Lewis take this approached or did he seek out the best and demand they face him?

Joshua fights at home because he's the A side and gets to choose, just like every American A side in history did.

Which judge in a Joshua fight ripped off another fighter?

The ref in the Parker fight broke them up a total of 6 times, so don't try and make something of it.

Lennox did demand the top Americans face him, but it didn't stop them from ducking for years or not fighting him at all. Joshua will fight Wilder in April if he's reasonable with his demands. But as of now, he's pricing himself out of the fight whilst at the same time asking for a ridiculous contract in his favour which has never before been done in history. But you still defend that? Pitiful.

[Jsmooth9876]

Joshua will be know as a ducker, never to have faced his main rivals, sat back and took the easy fights while the others manned up and fought.

Fury beat Klitschko first, Joshua was too scared to step up. Joshua even made excuses not to fight Fury back then

Now the WBC champ, Wilder will face off against the Heavyweight lineal champ.


If Fury wins, he will be forever ranked above Joshua, then man to stepped up and be the champions, while Joshua hid behind Eddie Hearn.

Wilder has already proved that he is willing to step up for the big fights only for Joshua to duck him, and beating Fury will cement his position above Joshua.

These could have been scalps of undefeated champs on Joshua's record, but with them fighter each other one will be definitely gone, and with time running out in their primes, Joshua's best win is still against a 41 year old Wlad, who was coming of a loss to Fury.


Ducking hurts your legacy, and not taking the big fights when then the present themselves, for not chasing them, when they are so few around, shows the world that you are not a champ, just a fraud.


Fury and Wilder, criticize their style all you want, but they will step up and back up their words rather than hide behind their promoter, stay at home and take the safe fights.

Or he could be known as TBE and just fight them 5 years after he should have or after they've all beat each other up already lol.

[D4thincarnation]

Joshua fights at home because he's the A side and gets to choose, just like every American A side in history did.

Which judge in a Joshua fight ripped off another fighter?

The ref in the Parker fight broke them up a total of 6 times, so don't try and make something of it.

Lennox did demand the top Americans face him, but it didn't stop them from ducking for years or not fighting him at all. Joshua will fight Wilder in April if he's reasonable with his demands. But as of now, he's pricing himself out of the fight whilst at the same time asking for a ridiculous contract in his favour which has never before been done in history. But you still defend that? Pitiful.

And Lennox went after them, didn't need to fight at home. But then again he was confident in his abilities.

As we saw a 41 year old Wlad who was outboxed by Fury, out boxing Joshua.

If Wilder beats Fury, he is the WBC champ and the lineal champ. Don't see why he needs Joshua.


Joshua still has not scalp on his record. Quite pathetic really.

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And Lennox went after them, didn't need to fight at home. But then again he was confident in his abilities.

As we saw a 41 year old Wlad who was outboxed by Fury, out boxing Joshua.

If Wilder beats Fury, he is the WBC champ and the lineal champ. Don't see why he needs Joshua.


Joshua still has not scalp on his record. Quite pathetic really.

The reason to why Lennox fought in the states was down to the scene being in America. Had he wanted the fights at home the Americans would have told him where to go. It was a great struggle to get them in their own country, let alone having to travel as well.

Joshua is confident in his abilities, but he still should be allowed to have home-court considering he's the A side. Americans wouldn't do the same if it was the other way round. They'd laugh in your face.

Wlad didn't outbox Joshua, it was a close fight all the way to the end.

Wilder needs Joshua to become number 1 and undisputed. To think otherwise is just plain stupid.

Joshua has the best 21 fight record in Heavyweight history. To claim he doesn't have any scalps is just beyond pathetic.

[KillaCamNZ]

All irrelevant. Wilder wants Joshua, tried to make the fight and Joshua and Hearn didn't want it.

He just signed a big deal with Eddie worth 100 million. It doesn't matter if he fights bums or the top fighters he get that money for his fight deal.

Fury and Wilder are in the game for the glory. Joshua is here for the money. Eddie and Joshua both thought the Wilder fight was too much of a risk as a lost would cost them tens of millions.

In other words, no, you can't defend him.

This was a waste of time.