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  • #91
    Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
    You are wrong though. The Ring title is their version of a lineal title. Even though for the most part they were synonymous, they are separate concepts.
    Look man you are wrong. The Ring title is the only lineal title, recognized since 1922, still recognized today as the lineal title. So much so that there was an uproar when they disregarded their lineage after returning from there decade off. They began new lineages in every division and were criticized by many in the boxing world. Ring is the only lineal title, there is no other, no matter how much you want to be right.

    Here's an article from Sports Illustrated, Note that Vlad didn't become the lineal champ till he won the Ring Magazine title (because it's the only lineal title)

    https://www.si.com/boxing/photos/201...ight-champions

    It doesn't matter what list, website, fan creates, The only recognized and sanctioned lineal title is The Ring title. BScene has a lineal ranking, but it's not recognized as official, there are a number of other publications that have a lineal list, those are also not official. Once again, the first and only lineal title is the Ring title.

    And by the way, the "concept" of lineal champion was actually created by Ring in 1920, it was't until the 1970's that media, fans, and other publications began to create their own lists.
    Last edited by KnickTillDeaTh; 08-08-2018, 11:54 PM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
      Look man you are wrong. The Ring title is the only lineal title, recognized since 1922, still recognized today as the lineal title. So much so that there was an uproar when they disregarded their lineage after returning from there decade off. They began new lineages in every division and were criticized by many in the boxing world. Ring is the only lineal title, there is no other, no matter how much you want to be right.

      Here's an article from Sports Illustrated, Note that Vlad didn't become the lineal champ till he won the Ring Magazine title (because it's the only lineal title)

      https://www.si.com/boxing/photos/201...ight-champions

      It doesn't matter what list, website, fan creates, The only recognized and sanctioned lineal title is The Ring title. BScene has a lineal ranking, but it's not recognized as official, there are a number of other publications that have a lineal list, those are also not official. Once again, the first and only lineal title is the Ring title.

      And by the way, the "concept" of lineal champion was actually created by Ring in 1920, it was't until the 1970's that media, fans, and other publications began to create their own lists.
      Dude, have you actually bothered to read the article you posted? The first sentence...

      The lineal championship in professional boxing, commonly described as "the man who beat the man," is a notional title intended to clarify the modern hodgepodge of sanctioning bodies and alphabet titles
      It's not official, so bringing up The Ring title as the "official" one is ridiculous. It also refers to them as two distinct things.

      Only when Wladimir Klitschko knocked out Ruslan Chagaev in June 2009, adding The Ring magazine title to his IBF and WBO belts, did a recognized heir to the lineage emerge
      The lineage was established because...

      If the lineal champion retires, dies or moves to another division, the vacancy is typically filled by a box-off between two or more top-ranked contenders
      ...which also happens to be the same criteria used by The Ring.

      It's clear that you aren't willing to listen to reason, and others have given up trying to save you from ignorance. I will too.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
        Dude, have you actually bothered to read the article you posted? The first sentence...



        It's not official, so bringing up The Ring title as the "official" one is ridiculous. It also refers to them as two distinct things.



        The lineage was established because...



        ...which also happens to be the same criteria used by The Ring.

        It's clear that you aren't willing to listen to reason, and others have given up trying to save you from ignorance. I will too.
        Ring created the criteria you dim wit. I have nothing left to prove. Gave you all the facts. You are lost. All major sports outlets like ESPN and SI follow the Ring magazine lineal title. The Ring magazine title is the only lineal title given in boxing, It's not an alphabet title. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Again Ring magazine invented the lineal champion in 1920, it is the only lineal title allowed to be given in professional boxing, no other lineages exist "officially" other than the Ring magazine title, when a boxer wins the Ring mag title he is considered the lineal champion. Anyway I'm done with you, go learn more about boxing history it's embarrassing.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
          Ring created the criteria you dim wit. I have nothing left to prove. Gave you all the facts. You are lost. All major sports outlets like ESPN and SI follow the Ring magazine lineal title. The Ring magazine title is the only lineal title given in boxing, It's not an alphabet title. You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Again Ring magazine invented the lineal champion in 1920, it is the only lineal title allowed to be given in professional boxing, no other lineages exist "officially" other than the Ring magazine title, when a boxer wins the Ring mag title he is considered the lineal champion. Anyway I'm done with you, go learn more about boxing history it's embarrassing.
          No need to get upset, ******. You've truly embarrassed yourself here.

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