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Old 02-24-2020, 01:18 PM #71
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It was behind the ear slightly on back of head because of wilders position, ajs was more on top of temple. This is the thing, wilder fans shouls not make this argument because hes landed punches in that same place and we celebrated, even the first knockdown in the first fight was slightly on back of head
I am not a Wilder fan. I'm not a fan of anybody. I want an undisputed champion ASAP, which is why I rooted for Fury. I hope Wilder declines the rematch and we get Fury vs Joshua next.

Fury won fair and square. I don't dispute that.

What I dispute is the idea that Wilder was out classed or dominated for 7 rounds, would have no chance in a rematch, etc.

It was essentially a one punch knockout, that happened to be to the back of the head (Wilder's fault, not Fury's), and Wilder through sheer guts and determination stayed out there as a dead man walking with no legs and no chance until finally his corner threw in the towel (it should have been thrown in in the 4th after it was clear he would never recover from the accidental rabbit punch).
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:19 PM #72
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You're right it's not Fury's fault. Fury won fair and square. I am not contesting the result of the fight. I'm contesting the narrative coming out of the fight.

As for it looking to you like Wilder got hit in the ear, this is what an ear shot actually looks like:

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Whereas in the Fury blow, Wilder's arm is out stretched and Fury is having to throw BEHIND Wilder's out stretched arm.

Fury's arm is coming up from over Wilder's shoulder blade, while Wilder's head is ducked down in the other direction.

It wouldn't even be physically possible from that angle for Fury to land on Wilder's ear. We can clearly see Fury's glove is landing on the back of the head and neck, not the side of the head and ear.

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We all know the screenshot you're using is a lie.

When Fury lands that punch you can still see WILDERS WHITE HAIR TIES and then the glove glances behind his head. Are you counting the returning motion as a punch????

In your screenshot why are the WHITE HAIR TIES unseen?

Its because you have an agenda and you cant take the L. PLENTY of people were saying Ruiz hit AJ behind the head and we know damn well it wasnt true.

Tell me smart ass. How can you tell when the punch hit when you clearly cannot see the moment of impact? Top view shows what you cannot see from the limited side view.

It CLEARY SHOWS the punch initially landed on the side of the head before WHITE HAIR TIES
which are located at the back of Wilders head
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:22 PM #73
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I am not a Wilder fan. I'm not a fan of anybody. I want an undisputed champion ASAP, which is why I rooted for Fury. I hope Wilder declines the rematch and we get Fury vs Joshua next.

Fury won fair and square. I don't dispute that.

What I dispute is the idea that Wilder was out classed or dominated for 7 rounds, would have no chance in a rematch, etc.

It was essentially a one punch knockout, that happened to be to the back of the head (Wilder's fault, not Fury's), and Wilder through sheer guts and determination stayed out there as a dead man walking with no legs and no chance until finally his corner threw in the towel (it should have been thrown in in the 4th after it was clear he would never recover from the accidental rabbit punch).
"I'm not a Wilder fan"

But I'm gonna keep pretending that Fury got lucky and hit Wilder on the back of the head and that changed everything...

When that clearly did not happen.

Everyone saw Wilder get completely outclassed.

I'm not a betting man but I'd bet big bucks on Fury. Fury got hit with a clean 1-2 in the first round and ate it. He then completely bullied Wilder.

How about you get your head out of your ass?

Fury hit Wilder with a ton of hard jabs and had a sustained body attack. Wilder didnt know how to respond and being a one trick pony he was out of tricks.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:26 PM #74
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i am not a wilder fan. I'm not a fan of anybody. I want an undisputed champion asap, which is why i rooted for fury. I hope wilder declines the rematch and we get fury vs joshua next.

Fury won fair and square. I don't dispute that.

What i dispute is the idea that wilder was out classed or dominated for 7 rounds, would have no chance in a rematch, etc.

It was essentially a one punch knockout, that happened to be to the back of the head (wilder's fault, not fury's), and wilder through sheer guts and determination stayed out there as a dead man walking with no legs and no chance until finally his corner threw in the towel (it should have been thrown in in the 4th after it was clear he would never recover from the accidental rabbit punch).
i hear you, i definitley do
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"I'm not a Wilder fan"

But I'm gonna keep pretending that Fury got lucky and hit Wilder on the back of the head and that changed everything...

When that clearly did not happen.

Everyone saw Wilder get completely outclassed.

I'm not a betting man but I'd bet big bucks on Fury. Fury got hit with a clean 1-2 in the first round and ate it. He then completely bullied Wilder.

How about you get your head out of your ass?

Fury hit Wilder with a ton of hard jabs and had a sustained body attack. Wilder didnt know how to respond and being a one trick pony he was out of tricks.
Don't believe the TS, like Wilder he is a habitual liar.

He has made threads about Wilder celebrating his reign as champion and constantly defended his decision to decline the DAZN deal and fire Dibella etc. If he isn't a fan then I don't know who is.

He has also resorted to insulting another poster's deceased ex girlfriend during a disagreement.

Bottom line, he has no integrity and should never be trusted to tell the truth if it doesn't fit his pro-PBC agenda.
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Doesnít look like the back of the head to me. Keep crying doe
it was on the ear , he just followed through to the back of his head with momentum....a boxing glove will almost take up the whole side of your head when it lands so yeah it landed on his ear ...itís not ian illegal shot when it lands on the top or back of the ear , itís illegal where itís comes to the back of your head
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Old 02-24-2020, 03:19 PM #77
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You're right it's not Fury's fault. Fury won fair and square. I am not contesting the result of the fight. I'm contesting the narrative coming out of the fight.

As for it looking to you like Wilder got hit in the ear, this is what an ear shot actually looks like:

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Whereas in the Fury blow, Wilder's arm is out stretched and Fury is having to throw BEHIND Wilder's out stretched arm.

Fury's arm is coming up from over Wilder's shoulder blade, while Wilder's head is ducked down in the other direction.

It wouldn't even be physically possible from that angle for Fury to land on Wilder's ear. We can clearly see Fury's glove is landing on the back of the head and neck, not the side of the head and ear.

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the fact that wilder was turning his head as the shot was landing makes it appear more egregious than it really was, especially from that angle. the overhead angle the other guy posted is better. you can actually see how far back on the head contact is made, as opposed to the angle you posted where the glove essentially covers the whole side/back of his head. also, it was clear wilder was cut in the ear after that shot...I'd be interested if someone could show another instance where the cut/swelling was caused. not saying it wasn't caused by some other shots, but for now I have to believe it came from the kd punch.
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Old 02-24-2020, 04:28 PM #78
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the fact that wilder was turning his head as the shot was landing makes it appear more egregious than it really was
Egregious in terms of it being a foul or egregious in terms of the damage it caused? Because Wilder's legs were gone after that shot and they never came back. It was essentially a one shot KO, except for Wilder being such a warrior that he found the strength to go be a zombie for 4 more rounds to try to go out on his shield.


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it was clear wilder was cut in the ear after that shot...I'd be interested if someone could show another instance where the cut/swelling was caused.
The ear shot was earlier in the round.

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This is HILARIOUS. So THIS is your excuse this time around. Previously it was the "slow count" (which wasn't a slow count, but somehow a perfect count). Now you are saying Wilder got concussed from an illegal punch.

He got hit on the ear and then the fist slid to the back of Wilder's head after the impact. Wilder was ducking his head and turning sideways to avoid the punch but failed massively.
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Egregious in terms of it being a foul or egregious in terms of the damage it caused? Because Wilder's legs were gone after that shot and they never came back. It was essentially a one shot KO, except for Wilder being such a warrior that he found the strength to go be a zombie for 4 more rounds to try to go out on his shield.




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even the gif of the kd from the opposite angle shows the shot land on the side of wilder's head then bounce off toward the back of his head. the way wilder's head reacted to the impact was to the side. the shot landed on the ear/slightly behind the ear...not on the back of the head/brain stem as a rabbit punch would.
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