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Old 02-15-2020, 04:11 AM #1
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I'm seeing plenty of ppl on here asking where all the Hearn bots are now now that they have turned down canelo offers.

There is a difference, a big difference. Hearn and the fighters have acknowledged these offers. Are they wrong to Demand more? Possibly but that's an argument for itself.

They are acknowledging the offers. Where as charlo started with the mouth about lions and these guys wanting no smoke.

That's the difference. Pbc fighters pretend they didn't receive no offers and try make out the other side are always the duckers who don't want his smoke.

So there is fighters turning down offers and then pbc fighters turning down offers and then lying about it.

Please by all means be pro pbc but being pro something doesn't mean you have to lie and crap on everything else.
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Old 02-15-2020, 06:49 AM #2
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Charlo admitted there was an offer.
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:06 AM #3
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Charlo acknowledged the offer was real.

It's terrible for boxing and the fans if fighters like pvssy Charlo, Smith, and Saunders are going to start turning down big money for big fights in favor of less money for mediocre fights.

Guys like Curt Henning love this, though. They get off on the business moves and power plays behind the scenes more than they do big fights.
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:36 AM #4
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Charlo admitted there was an offer.
He did eventually. At one point he was claiming Andrade was hiding from him. Hearn had to pull them up and show the proof.
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:45 AM #5
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Charlo acknowledged the offer was real.

It's terrible for boxing and the fans if fighters like pvssy Charlo, Smith, and Saunders are going to start turning down big money for big fights in favor of less money for mediocre fights.

Guys like Curt Henning love this, though. They get off on the business moves and power plays behind the scenes more than they do big fights.
Im just waiting on BJS and Smith. They said they wanted the fight, they have been made career high offers but it sounds like they are holding out for more. If they eventually walk away and take mediocre fights i will rant at them like i rant at Charlo or coward Wilder.

But unlike Charlo they will play for more. Charlo has just no interest, he just dont want that smoke and would rather fight small men from a lower division.
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:50 AM #6
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Im just waiting on BJS and Smith. They said they wanted the fight, they have been made career high offers but it sounds like they are holding out for more. If they eventually walk away and take mediocre fights i will rant at them like i rant at Charlo or coward Wilder.

But unlike Charlo they will play for more. Charlo has just no interest, he just dont want that smoke and would rather fight small men from a lower division.
They were offered a more than fair share of the purse.

Charlo was made career high offers too but he is also holding out for more. There is no difference.
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:52 AM #7
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I'm seeing plenty of ppl on here asking where all the Hearn bots are now now that they have turned down canelo offers.

There is a difference, a big difference. Hearn and the fighters have acknowledged these offers. Are they wrong to Demand more? Possibly but that's an argument for itself.

They are acknowledging the offers. Where as charlo started with the mouth about lions and these guys wanting no smoke.

That's the difference. Pbc fighters pretend they didn't receive no offers and try make out the other side are always the duckers who don't want his smoke.

So there is fighters turning down offers and then pbc fighters turning down offers and then lying about it.

Please by all means be pro pbc but being pro something doesn't mean you have to lie and crap on everything else.
I agree that right now both Smith/Bjs are at a negotiating stage which is much different than when Charlo secretly turned down offers & didn't want anyone to know. One is a fighter who for whatever reason turned it down completely, another is a fighter who might still take the fight.(ftr I don't think Charlos scared of Canelo he just has Haymon pulling his strings & wants to be able to retire off the payday of a Canelo fight win or lose) Jacobs made it to where everyone thinks they deserve 12 mil+ now which is bs imho because Jacobs earned it more

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Old 02-15-2020, 12:32 PM #8
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Speaking of Saunders - all I want as an early Christmas gift this year is to see someone put a leg-twitching KO on that a$$whole Saunders. And right in front of his punk son.
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Old 02-15-2020, 01:16 PM #9
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Charlo acknowledged the offer was real.

It's terrible for boxing and the fans if fighters like pvssy Charlo, Smith, and Saunders are going to start turning down big money for big fights in favor of less money for mediocre fights.

Guys like Curt Henning love this, though. They get off on the business moves and power plays behind the scenes more than they do big fights.
Were the offers to fight Canelo really that big? The amount of these offers seems to be a big dark secret and Oscar always refuses to say the amount of the offers. I heard the offers for champions to fight Canelo is 4 million dollars. I read that Jacobs got 15 million and Khan got 13 million to fight Canelo. So maybe 4 millio is not such a great offer for an undefeated world champion to put their world title and unbeaten record on the line in Vegas where Canelo is almost impossible to beat on points.
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Old 02-15-2020, 01:21 PM #10
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Speaking of Saunders - all I want as an early Christmas gift this year is to see someone put a leg-twitching KO on that a$$whole Saunders. And right in front of his punk son.
I think you will get your wish. I think Canelo make Saunders a better offer and Saunders will fight Canelo in May and get KOed. I can't stand the arrogant cherry picker either.
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