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Old 01-14-2020, 05:58 PM #31
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It hasn't got anything to do with religion. If you look at who actually commits these crimes. They aren't usually very wise about religion. They are naive, young and impressionable.

It is more to do with the fact that the people who are moving there are poor. These people also aren't very educated. Most crime is committed in poor areas.

Look at the situation here in the UK. Areas where there are more Romanians/Poles/Albanians, there is a higher level of crime. Areas where there is more poverty breeds more criminality. Back in the 70's/80's you didn't really have Eastern Euro's here in the UK. The poorest were usually Subcontinent Asians, Irish and Black people. They tended to live in poorer areas. These areas tended to have higher crime. They are always playing a game of catch-up.

You have the government which has cut public funding in half. Areas which are poorer tend to have hardly any funding. There are hardly any youth clubs here anymore. When I was growing up there were loads and they were great for kids. Peoples benefits are being cut left right and centre, even when they need it to not die. The system is broken unless you are rich, then it's still broken actually but just in your favour.

I think people look at race and religion because it is easy, hot and easier for the media to latch on to....what's more 'boring' but requires deconstructing is class, socio-economics, environment and how that leads to crime, division and inequality.
People seldom understand this point. It has a lot to do with how problems are portrayed in the media, and the fact that people are loath to do something the pulp fiction character the Shadow would do: take various newspaper clickings and develop a pattern, a big picture on which to make a deduction.

So we have people in the Balkans, like Milosov who used Nationalism to make groups of individuals who had peacefully coexisted for over a century, start to kill each other... And we have Jewish settlers who started killing others and claiming land...and we have poor uneducated single men who profess a belief in the fruits of heaven they will receive...

Yet people would rather maintain that it is Islam that is the culprit. Despite the things that constantly reappear: the economic conditions, the lack of opportunity, the lack of education, and often, the lack of a traditional family in an environment where the family held everything together.

There is a reason political theorists had such a disdain for Religion as a whole. like other systems of control it is about using human beings as a means to an end. But alas it is easier to blame an ideology than try to look at the problems many face in the world: Being born in an area with chronic overpopulation, no resources, no hope, and being disdained by all your neighbors.

Yes monotheistic traditions did have the power to proclaim one true God and drive individuals to kill the other 'One true Gods" lol...But we have witnessed a new time where even peaceful religions like Hinduism have created extremists.
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Try posting this nonsense on reddit. Thereís nothing special about Sweden that should warrant concern. They are no better or no worse than Haiti to me.
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:30 AM #33
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Massive explosion in the nations capital of Stockholm last night as well as a huge blast in Uppsala.

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The blast in Stockholm was apparently in a wealthy area in the city, where several 'opinion-makers' live. Furthermore it's been revealed, that the bomb went off in an apartment complex were the police use an apartment as a 'safe-place' for witnesses (a witness-protection place) to stay before they give testimony in courtcases.

Several inhabitants in the area says that Sweden has no future, that multicriminal migrant has ruined an entire country. When one respondent is asked what he thinks when the government says that Sweden is safer than ever he answers that they are liars but that we only have ourselves to blame as we vote for the parties that rules the country.
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:32 AM #34
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The chief of police, Anders Thornberg, has sent a letter to the government asking that police should have access to call in the army if they feel they need them.
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The chief of police, Anders Thornberg, has sent a letter to the government asking that police should have access to call in the army if they feel they need them.
My wife, just left Germany after a conference, and she let me know that things have changed a lot since we visited a decade ago. We went to Sweden too, and she said, it is not like it was when we visited.

Politicians need to house the people they bring into the country, so that they can better understand how best to deal with them.

If the Chief of Police feels the need to call in the Military, then things are way outta control.
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What Stockholm police calls an 'extreme week' is now over. First the capitol was rocked by a huge blast on monday. Wednesday a couple was found killed just north of Stockholm and the week was capped off with 3 serious incidents.

First on Friday shooting broke out in Jordbro and a 20 year old was gunned down. He later died in hospital.

Saturday police was called to a gun-fight at a gas-station, but when they arrived no-one was there. A couple of hours later, they were called out to another gas-station a couple of miles away and they found a man and woman shot. The man was shot in the head and dead.

No-one has been arrested.
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What Stockholm police calls an 'extreme week' is now over. First the capitol was rocked by a huge blast on monday. Wednesday a couple was found killed just north of Stockholm and the week was capped off with 3 serious incidents.

First on Friday shooting broke out in Jordbro and a 20 year old was gunned down. He later died in hospital.

Saturday police was called to a gun-fight at a gas-station, but when they arrived no-one was there. A couple of hours later, they were called out to another gas-station a couple of miles away and they found a man and woman shot. The man was shot in the head and dead.

No-one has been arrested.

Very sad. Welcome to violence at the levels of my fair city...Baltimore.
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Being well educated is key to integration imo. Can't expect non educated people to go through putting their traditions and habits to the side because it's inappropriate for their new enviroment. Importing so many people at once increases the risk of importing a large number of uneducated people not capable of Integration and it makes screening efforts impossible. It just can't work out like that without major ramifications down the line.

The reason all these socialist European countries are looking to import people is their dwindling birth rates and as a result, the collapsing socialist system. In socialist systems, healthy working people pay for the others who are incapable of work. If there aren't enough people working the healthcare, welfare and pension system will collapse and that is why they need foreigners. I think it is a selfish way to do things by the lawmakers since it's short sighted. They wanna make sure that in their lifetimes, their healthcare and pension are secured but completely ignored the social/cultural consequences of their decisions down the line.
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