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Originally posted by garfios View PostIf you are a Champion the age is not an excuse, stop with age, Benitez won his first belt against a HOF when he was 17 years old, Tyson, Patterson, Morales, Barrera and a lot of fighters has won their belt when 20 years old and from that on they had face only the best.
wilfred benitiez was the greatest young fighter of all time. all time.
do you hear anybody calling canelo alvarez that? do you hear anybody even calling him a complete product? he's not ready. that is the whole point. mike tyson was fully grown and matured when he was 18 years old. he had been boxing for years under one of the planet's greatest living trainers. and he fought plenty of soft touches both coming up and throughout his career.
stop with the "champion" stuff. is that what's bogging you down? a piece of green leather that exists for no other reason than to make extra money and make money making easier? do you really care about those belts? do you really buy into that crap? do you understand what they are?
their ratings mean nothing (they dont rank the fighters based on who is best and has accomplished the most.) the belts can be taken away for virtually any reason. they cost money, and if you arent willing to pay it you are stripped and blackballed from fighting for that organizations title. some favor certain nationalities (the WBC and mexico for instance.) they are complete BS, man. i dont know why i have to keep typing it. did you know how they work? and if you did, why do you care?
who did he win this "championship" from? (he had a "silver title" leading into his fight with mathew hatton, but he won the "vacant" title in a fight with mathew flippin hatton.)
Mathew hatton is who he fought to win his "championship" at 154.
how many other championships are there? (four alphabets in every division, sometimes five, many with interim, vacant, and super / diamond champions of their own)
the belts mean nothing. you're either very naiive, or just looking for an excuse to hate a 22 year old for his matchmaking, who doesnt have a damn thing to say about who he fights.
the kid is 22 years old and next year he'll probably be fighting floyd mayweather. that's probably been the plan for years now. canelo has been brought up just right in my eyes. he needs a few more step
it's the f#cking champion stuff? that you actaully care about that nonsense is beyond me.
the WBC grand champion?
he's not even in the top 2
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Originally posted by New England View Postthe kid is 22 years old and next year he'll probably be fighting floyd mayweather. that's probably been the plan for years now. canelo has been brought up just right in my eyes. he needs a few more step
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Originally posted by New England View Postyou named not only first ballot hall of famers, but bonafide ATG's. you scoff at the kid, yet you compare him to gods as if not stacking up to them is some sort of indictment. it's unbelievable, man. it really is.
wilfred benitiez was the greatest young fighter of all time. all time.
do you hear anybody calling canelo alvarez that? do you hear anybody even calling him a complete product? he's not ready. that is the whole point. mike tyson was fully grown and matured when he was 18 years old. he had been boxing for years under one of the planet's greatest living trainers. and he fought plenty of soft touches both coming up and throughout his career.
stop with the "champion" stuff. is that what's bogging you down? a piece of green leather that exists for no other reason than to make extra money and make money making easier? do you really care about those belts? do you really buy into that crap? do you understand what they are?
their ratings mean nothing (they dont rank the fighters based on who is best and has accomplished the most.) the belts can be taken away for virtually any reason. they cost money, and if you arent willing to pay it you are stripped and blackballed from fighting for that organizations title. some favor certain nationalities (the WBC and mexico for instance.) they are complete BS, man. i dont know why i have to keep typing it. did you know how they work? and if you did, why do you care?
who did he win this "championship" from? (he had a "silver title" leading into his fight with mathew hatton, but he won the "vacant" title in a fight with mathew flippin hatton.)
Mathew hatton is who he fought to win his "championship" at 154.
how many other championships are there? (four alphabets in every division, sometimes five, many with interim, vacant, and super / diamond champions of their own)
the belts mean nothing. you're either very naiive, or just looking for an excuse to hate a 22 year old for his matchmaking, who doesnt have a damn thing to say about who he fights.
the kid is 22 years old and next year he'll probably be fighting floyd mayweather. that's probably been the plan for years now. canelo has been brought up just right in my eyes. he needs a few more step
it's the f#cking champion stuff? that you actaully care about that nonsense is beyond me.
the WBC grand champion?
he's not even in the top 2
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Originally posted by garfios View Postwhy he is getting a pass fighting a 140 lbs fighter that's not even rank? He could very well hurt Lopez and then what?
Can't believe a commission is actually allowing this. The hell with weight divisions I guess huh?
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Originally posted by New England View Postyou named not only first ballot hall of famers, but bonafide ATG's. you scoff at the kid, yet you compare him to gods as if not stacking up to them is some sort of indictment. it's unbelievable, man. it really is.
wilfred benitiez was the greatest young fighter of all time. all time.
do you hear anybody calling canelo alvarez that? do you hear anybody even calling him a complete product? he's not ready. that is the whole point. mike tyson was fully grown and matured when he was 18 years old. he had been boxing for years under one of the planet's greatest living trainers. and he fought plenty of soft touches both coming up and throughout his career.
stop with the "champion" stuff. is that what's bogging you down? a piece of green leather that exists for no other reason than to make extra money and make money making easier? do you really care about those belts? do you really buy into that crap? do you understand what they are?
their ratings mean nothing (they dont rank the fighters based on who is best and has accomplished the most.) the belts can be taken away for virtually any reason. they cost money, and if you arent willing to pay it you are stripped and blackballed from fighting for that organizations title. some favor certain nationalities (the WBC and mexico for instance.) they are complete BS, man. i dont know why i have to keep typing it. did you know how they work? and if you did, why do you care?
who did he win this "championship" from? (he had a "silver title" leading into his fight with mathew hatton, but he won the "vacant" title in a fight with mathew flippin hatton.)
Mathew hatton is who he fought to win his "championship" at 154.
how many other championships are there? (four alphabets in every division, sometimes five, many with interim, vacant, and super / diamond champions of their own)
the belts mean nothing. you're either very naiive, or just looking for an excuse to hate a 22 year old for his matchmaking, who doesnt have a damn thing to say about who he fights.
the kid is 22 years old and next year he'll probably be fighting floyd mayweather. that's probably been the plan for years now. canelo has been brought up just right in my eyes. he needs a few more step
it's the f#cking champion stuff? that you actaully care about that nonsense is beyond me.
the WBC grand champion?
he's not even in the top 2
PS. That's why a mention that he is being exploited and his ppl will cash it in if they plan to face Fraud next.Last edited by garfios; 07-23-2012, 08:32 PM.
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Originally posted by jsfd26 View PostCause Lopez broke Ortiz's jaw, therefore there's this one chance...
Can't believe a commission is actually allowing this. The hell with weight divisions I guess huh?
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Originally posted by garfios View PostThere's some smart posters here but when it comes to their idols common sense goes out the window, canelo is been protected there's no way around that, he was given a belt for Christmas and is not even his size, they can't duck the whole division for much longer, or they plan to throw him to the Lions and make a ton of money very soon and leave him like a whore on the curb.
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Originally posted by jsfd26 View PostThis whole thing started when ODLH endorsed him as his replacement.
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