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    A Federal Judge Just Ruled That The Affordable Care Act Is Unconstitutional

    A Federal Judge Just Ruled That The Affordable Care Act Is Unconstitutional
    By Paul McLeod
    WASHINGTON — A federal judge in Texas has ruled the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional, which could lead to millions of people losing their health insurance. .

    In a shocking ruling that flies in the face of what most legal experts had argued, US District Judge Reed O’Connor, who sits in Fort Worth, found that a tweak to the Affordable Care Act that Congress made last year means protections for people with pre-existing health conditions are unconstitutional.

    There will likely be a stay on the ruling while it is challenged to the US Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit. If it is ultimately successful, it could throw the insurance markets into chaos and return America to the days when insurance companies could refuse insurance to people with pre-existing conditions or charge them exorbitant premiums. It is the most recent of many legal challenges to the ACA, also known as Obamacare, and will likely be appealed to the Supreme Court.

    The lawsuit was launched by 20 Republican state attorneys general early this year after Congress effectively eliminated the ACA’s individual mandate. Led by Texas, the states argued this rendered the entire ACA is unconstitutional.

    The Republican-controlled Congress attempted to repeal the Affordable Care Act in 2016 but fell short because they could not agree on a replacement to preserve pre-existing condition protections. Instead, late last year as part of a larger tax bill they made a much more narrow move by eliminating the individual mandate tax penalty on people who could afford health insurance but chose not to buy it.

    Experts debated whether removing the penalty would destabilize markets — so far that has not happened — but the vast majority of the ACA was kept in place. Then in February Texas and the other states came forward with what at first seemed like a novel legal argument — that removing the tax penalty makes the individual mandate unconstitutional, which in turn makes the whole law unconstitutional.

    Their case rests on a previous legal challenge that nearly overthrew the ACA. In 2012, the Supreme Court had to decide whether Congress had the power to force people to buy health insurance. The court ruled that it did, sort of. Chief Justice John Roberts Jr., who broke with the court’s conservative wing, found that Congress’s taxation powers allowed it to charge a tax penalty to people who don’t buy insurance.

    In a late 2017 tax bill Congress reduced the individual mandate tax penalty from $695 to $0. The Texas lawsuit argued that since legality hinges on taxation powers, removing the tax penalty makes the individual mandate unconstitutional. Further, Texas claimed that the individual mandate is so central to the ACA that the entire law must be struck down.

    Typically administrations defend federal laws, but the Trump administration instead sided with the Republican-led states and argued much of the ACA should be struck down. While the administration said some portions should be saved, such as Medicaid expansion, it argued that pre-existing condition protections should be eliminated. A group of Democratic attorneys general stepped in to defend the law.

    Their case hinged on the question of “severability” — if one part of a law is struck down, does the entire law go with it? Legally, this question is settled. The courts err on the side of keeping laws in place, and in ambiguous circumstances they look to the intent of Congress.

    “It goes to the principle of legislative supremacy. The courts are very sensitive to Congress’s supremacy when it comes to legislation,” said Yale Law School professor Abbe Gluck.

    Legal experts across the spectrum have blasted the Texas lawsuit because, they say, the intent of Congress was clear: the individual mandate was repealed while the rest of the ACA was left to stand.

    To get around this, Texas turned to the Congress of 2010. At the time, Democrats were trying to defend the necessity of the individual mandate and argued it is tied intrinsically to pre-existing condition protections. The lawsuit cites this Obama-administration argument as evidence these parts of the bill are necessarily intertwined.

    Opponents have dismissed that view as a legal absurdity. Since 2010 the mandate was gradually neutered first through non-enforcement by the Trump administration, then through legislation. But the markets adjusted and pre-existing protections remained the law of the land.

    Gluck and other legal experts provided an amicus brief that argues Congress’s intent was clear in 2017 when it preserved the ACA while striking down just the individual mandate. They argue it would be a massive breach of precedent for the courts to effectively overrule elected politicians by looking to a different Congress dealing with different circumstances seven years earlier.

    “That’s a big invasion of legislative power… Rarely would you see one tiny provision of a statute that kills a 2,000-page law,” said Gluck. “Sometimes the rule of law has to win out over politics. I’m sorry to be so dramatic but this case, it’s something else.”

    Larry Levitt, senior vice president for health reform at the Kaiser Family Foundation, said that while the ruling has been stayed for now, it could cause insurers to get nervous as the case makes its way to the Supreme Court. That could lead to insurers leaving marketplaces or preemptively raising premiums to account for risk.

    There will also be immediate political fallout. Democrats have repeatedly accused Republicans of trying to take away pre-existing condition protections. And though Republicans have denied this, they are now in a position where legislative action may be needed to prevent millions of people losing access to insurance. The ACA cut the uninsured rate for non-elderly adults almost in half.

    “If Democrats bring up a bill to affirm the ACA’s pre-existing condition protections, it could put Republicans who said they were in favor of those protections on the campaign trail on the hot seat,” said Levitt.


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    • #32
      On the last day of open enrollment. Smh

      Hopefully we'll get a stay.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
        Its just 1 big racket. Healthcare professionals, insurance companies, and the Pharmaceutical companies are all in on it.

        I think its f.cken ridiculous that we have to go to a Dr. to get anti-biotics prescribed. Theres a fentanyl/heroin epidemic going on in the USA but Medical Professionals are worried a person may misuse antibiotics? Give me a break! Dr.'s get huge kickbacks from Drug companies to prescribe their drugs!!

        Another thing I noticed about healthcare in the USA is people go to the Dr. to damn much. 1x a year is fine for a physical and labs.
        Pretty much this. I went out of network last month for the test doc. I got a bill for 400.00 and all he did was take 2min to hand me a lab sheet. Got the bill and I was like WTF!
        I called and said I didnt use my insurance, Aetna. I wanted a cash price. She said we can cut the bill in half if I pay cash. WTF so they are charging more because the insurance pays? That leads to higher rates.
        Then she says, oh sorry I cant give you a discount. I said eh? Why not! She then said because I have insurance. I said yeah and you dont take it so I want to pay cash.
        She said sorry sir, because you have insurance the IC applied the bill to your deductible, because of that reason you cant pay cash.

        Man I was so pissed! Odds are I wont use my insurance again in the last quarter. These Docs are just finding ways to screw people over. Most people dont look at the bill because it goes straight to insurance. But when they can charge you less for paying cash theres a problem. Thats the price they should be charging to start with!

        Its all a racket. Until we get cost's under control it will never change. Just look at the cost of a aspirin at the hospital.
        Look at these costs
        Charge to patient: $15 per individual pill, for a total of $345 during average patient stay
        https://www.rd.com/health/wellness/w...ospital-costs/

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        • #34
          So from what I've gathered is if you're American don't work and you'll get better healthcare than foreign universal healthcare countries and will only be behind the wealthy in quality care.

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          • #35
            Looks like it's game over.

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            • #36
              Good.

              People get sick.

              People get injured.

              They die.

              Y'all beat your meat over Animal Planet, and the beauty of nature.

              Welp, we are the most evolved of all, to the tune of 7 billion.

              You want sweet nothings whispered into your ear, and think everything is going to be OK when this litigious society can sue the **** out of anybody for anything?

              People that have no busines working in hospitals after racking up who knows how much in loans at a university?

              Big Pharma?

              Im not going to sit here, and act like I care about y'alls health.

              I've got mine covered.

              Be ready.

              So you won't have to get ready.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dumpster Juice View Post
                Looks like it's game over.
                The game is hardly over. It was ruled unconstitutional by a district federal judge. It will be appealed. The judge said that the law is only unconstitutional because of the trump tax plan eliminating the penalty for non enrollment. So the judge is essentially saying that trump policy made it unconstitutional. Otherwise it was fine.

                It’s game over when the Supreme Court strikes it down. Long way from that.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Don Pichardo View Post
                  The game is hardly over. It was ruled unconstitutional by a district federal judge. It will be appealed. The judge said that the law is only unconstitutional because of the trump tax plan eliminating the penalty for non enrollment. So the judge is essentially saying that trump policy made it unconstitutional. Otherwise it was fine.

                  It’s game over when the Supreme Court strikes it down. Long way from that.
                  Over your head. As for the rest of your ramblings the free ride for you and your kind is over.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Don Pichardo View Post
                    The game is hardly over. It was ruled unconstitutional by a district federal judge. It will be appealed. The judge said that the law is only unconstitutional because of the trump tax plan eliminating the penalty for non enrollment. So the judge is essentially saying that trump policy made it unconstitutional. Otherwise it was fine.

                    It’s game over when the Supreme Court strikes it down. Long way from that.
                    Lol Trump played everyone when he got his tax laws.

                    Should be very interesting. Chess when everyone else is playing checkers. Checkmate.

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                    • #40
                      This is a victory for America.

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