Wilder's ducking is making him look like a hard bargainer

[DaNeutral.]

He wasn't lying. A bunch of UK trolls pretending he's lying doesn't change the truth.

You really think the head of a major network is going to go on twitter and post fraudulent documents like that? You're out of your mind.

Well he did, he was asked by Eddie Hearn to show those terms and he couldnt, infact he stopped replying at that point. I see what you do now, You keep the biggest spin lies you hear and refuse to accept them as anything less than 100% fact. You are the biggest liar on this forum and im far from the 1st person to say that about you.

[N/A]

Well he did, he was asked by Eddie Hearn to show those terms and he couldnt

You're lying. Espinoza stated the contract said Sky got UK rights. Hearn said he was lying, so Espinoza posted a scan of the portion of the contract pertaining to UK rights to prove he was telling the truth and that Hearn was the liar.

Hearn then did was he always does and tried to get cute with his phrasing to try to fool UK fanboys. So Hearn said: "Show the contract you sent"

Hearn did this for two reasons. #1 - He knew the contract he was sent came from Wilder, not Espinoza, so Espinoza couldn't possibly show the contract he sent, since he's not the one who sent it. #2 - He knew it would be considered incredibly unprofessional by everybody in the industry to post a full contract, so there was no way Espinoza could fulfill Hearn's request without doing incredible damage to himself professionally. UK fanboys fell for Hearn's trick, just like they always do.

infact he stopped replying at that point.

You're lying. Espinoza continued to reply.

https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...25303345737728

Never said I sent it. Wilder sent it and you confirmed receipt.

"Hearn told ESPN that he had indeed received the offer by email from Wilder's personal account..."


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...26798531256320

Three detailed pages, not one paragraph.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...28918009507840

Mischaracterize much? Never said "we" sent a contract. I said a contract was sent.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...40638388056066

Again, never said "I" sent a contract. And I'm not going to expose private business arrangements in a Twitter discussion.

Considering your attempt to deny AJ's 6-fight Showtime deal after just 3 fights, it's not surprising that you wouldn't remember this one either.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...43910163238912

So what do you call the 3-page document you received? An agreement? Deal proposal? Term sheet? It had all the relevant terms necessary to establish an agreement.

Remember you thought that the AJ multi-fight deal wasn't a contract either, and you were wrong about that too.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...45189828603904

Didn't release anything that wasn't already public, other than you failed attempt to ignore the agreement you already entered into.

You didn't answer the question. A 3-page contract was sent. You said it wasn't. So what do you call the 3-page document that you received?


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...46972428767232

I know what was sent, as do you, since we both received copies.

You don't dispute that you received a 3-page document containing the deal terms. For the THIRD time, I'm asking you what you call that 3-page document you received, since you're claiming it's not a contract.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...49791701590021

LOL...the lies continue. You're quite creative.

You don't dispute that you received a 3-page document with deal terms, but you don't consider it a contract...just like you didn't consider the AJ multi-fight deal a contract until you got legal advice telling you otherwise.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...53602381893634

No issue with AJ.

Just reminding you of your consistent attempts to misrepresent facts and your apparent inability (or refusal) to recognize contractual obligations.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...56854120968193

Wow. Pathological. What a colossal waste of time this has become.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...59522293891073

Ran out of money after the AJ contract finished in March 2018? Another blatant lie. We did 9 more 2018 events after that. Quite a feat to do that with no money.

[just the facts]

Prize Fight meaning: 1. a boxing match in which people fight to win money .


Boxing is the sport to try and win the most money available when it presents itself .

Wilder in the sport he’s in has not done that and did the exact opposite to what is usually a fighter taking the highest offers and purses guaranteed to them .

Now he can claim money don’t matter which he has but he also cannot claim he really wanted the AJ fight and also make demands which are purposeful to sabotage a fight which he also has done .

Again, what's with your weird negative obsession with Wilder? Racism? Anti American ? What? You virtually make no other posts. Why?

[OnlytheTruth]

I think your business acumen is a bit f****d up. Turn down 100M and settle for Breazeale and a couple mill. Yeah ok.
Does it not spark a little thought in your teeny brain, that maybe, just maybe, he doesn't want it.

You best not be directing that at me?

[OnlytheTruth]

another worthless insecure thread from an AJ/Hearn fanatic. what exactly do you guys get out of posting these same things daily???? if my fighter got his azz whooped n then danced around the ring vs a big butter ball id at least humble up, but you guys are on another level

Its very hypocritical of you to talk about people being bias towards AJ or Hearn, right before you go off on an anti-Joshua rant about his last two fights.

You only responded to the thread because you feel compelled to, as a Wilder fan. What do you get out of replying? Probably the same as the guy starting the thread.

[OnlytheTruth]

You're lying. Espinoza stated the contract said Sky got UK rights. Hearn said he was lying, so Espinoza posted a scan of the portion of the contract pertaining to UK rights to prove he was telling the truth and that Hearn was the liar.

Hearn then did was he always does and tried to get cute with his phrasing to try to fool UK fanboys. So Hearn said: "Show the contract you sent"

Hearn did this for two reasons. #1 - He knew the contract he was sent came from Wilder, not Espinoza, so Espinoza couldn't possibly show the contract he sent, since he's not the one who sent it. #2 - He knew it would be considered incredibly unprofessional by everybody in the industry to post a full contract, so there was no way Espinoza could fulfill Hearn's request without doing incredible damage to himself professionally. UK fanboys fell for Hearn's trick, just like they always do.




You're lying. Espinoza continued to reply.

https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...25303345737728

Never said I sent it. Wilder sent it and you confirmed receipt.

"Hearn told ESPN that he had indeed received the offer by email from Wilder's personal account..."


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...26798531256320

Three detailed pages, not one paragraph.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...28918009507840

Mischaracterize much? Never said "we" sent a contract. I said a contract was sent.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...40638388056066

Again, never said "I" sent a contract. And I'm not going to expose private business arrangements in a Twitter discussion.

Considering your attempt to deny AJ's 6-fight Showtime deal after just 3 fights, it's not surprising that you wouldn't remember this one either.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...43910163238912

So what do you call the 3-page document you received? An agreement? Deal proposal? Term sheet? It had all the relevant terms necessary to establish an agreement.

Remember you thought that the AJ multi-fight deal wasn't a contract either, and you were wrong about that too.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...45189828603904

Didn't release anything that wasn't already public, other than you failed attempt to ignore the agreement you already entered into.

You didn't answer the question. A 3-page contract was sent. You said it wasn't. So what do you call the 3-page document that you received?


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...46972428767232

I know what was sent, as do you, since we both received copies.

You don't dispute that you received a 3-page document containing the deal terms. For the THIRD time, I'm asking you what you call that 3-page document you received, since you're claiming it's not a contract.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...49791701590021

LOL...the lies continue. You're quite creative.

You don't dispute that you received a 3-page document with deal terms, but you don't consider it a contract...just like you didn't consider the AJ multi-fight deal a contract until you got legal advice telling you otherwise.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...53602381893634

No issue with AJ.

Just reminding you of your consistent attempts to misrepresent facts and your apparent inability (or refusal) to recognize contractual obligations.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...56854120968193

Wow. Pathological. What a colossal waste of time this has become.


https://twitter.com/StephenEspinoza/...59522293891073

Ran out of money after the AJ contract finished in March 2018? Another blatant lie. We did 9 more 2018 events after that. Quite a feat to do that with no money.

Directly quoting someone's Twitter feed and the truth are NOT the same thing.

By doing so, you are saying that everything that everything posted on Twitter is categorically true.

[N/A]

Directly quoting someone's Twitter feed and the truth are NOT the same thing.

Nobody said they were. The troll I was responding to had claimed that Espinoza had stopped replying when Hearn asked him to post the contract he sent (to fool fans who didn't realize Espinoza wasn't the one who sent the contract). Directly quoting Espinoza's twitter feed shows that troll was lying about Espinoza not responding.

By doing so, you are saying that everything that everything posted on Twitter is categorically true.

Nobody said that. Next time you should read what you're replying to.

[uppercut510]

Its very hypocritical of you to talk about people being bias towards AJ or Hearn, right before you go off on an anti-Joshua rant about his last two fights.

You only responded to the thread because you feel compelled to, as a Wilder fan. What do you get out of replying? Probably the same as the guy starting the thread.

its aj fans that start these stupid threads daily trying to force these stupid narratives; so I respond the way I see fit, its a fact that aj got his azz whooped, and its a fact they are the #1 fan base starting these stupid threads and posting like wild maniacs all day, what did I say wrong?

[OnlytheTruth]

its aj fans that start these stupid threads daily trying to force these stupid narratives; so I respond the way I see fit, its a fact that aj got his azz whooped, and its a fact they are the #1 fan base starting these stupid threads and posting like wild maniacs all day, what did I say wrong?

Lets be fair, its 50-50. If you don't want to see it, maybe try a different sport?

Yeah, its fairly obvious to say Joshua lost and that its fact. Doesn't take intelligence to understand that!

[hugh grant]

I think Josh is the one wilder fears most. Josh beat wlad, the man who downed him in sparring. Wilder believes in triangle theories