And the Heavyweight Crown is Broken Up Again

[joe strong]

that makes no sense fury was the ibf mandatory to klitschko

I think he was the WBO mandatory after beating Chisora for the second time. He turned down the IBF eliminator vs Pulev for the IBF mandatory & fought Kevin Johnson in a WBC eliminator instead. So Pulev fought Klitschko without having to win a final eliminator. Fury was IBF #2 or 3 going into The Klitschko fight I think...

[Elroy1]

First of all the idea of an "undisputed" champ is borderline meaningless when someone like Wladimir, a unified champ for 10 years was disallowed to compete for the final trinket when it was for grabs, and now for no valid reason it is further fragmented again. Yet by happenstance, in just one or 2 of the right fights, a given boxer could potentially unify them by doing next to nothing in comparison.

Second of all, ALL the sanctioning bodies are totally corrupt, they have to be, their main purpose is to generate money, hence it is beneficial to be corrupt.

It is their duty to ensure that the titles are as seperate as possible at all times.

Why?

Because more champs means more title fights meaning more money.

With a single unified champ, the gears of business don't run so profitably.

IT should be utterly boycotted that Fury gets stripped of his title and it should be that a bum champion holds a title ransom.

What is needed really is a total overthrow of the current system and sacking of the sanctioning bodies altogether in favour of tourney style competition.

It's time boxing got with the times!

All this garbage about the top fights not getting made etc would incidentally then be a thing of the past.

[Scipio2009]

Fury is the undisputed legit champ.... everyone else is a pretender

Deontay Wilder's title lineage stretches from Vitali Klitschko, who stretches from being the last champion from Lennox Lewis, the last man to be undisputed champion (eventual belt politics aside).

Lennox Lewis ---> Vitali/Wladimir Klistchko ---> twin title lineages

Fury vs Wilder is now the fight to determine the undisputed champion of the heavyweight division (if the IBF move happens, no one will actually consider the new IBF champion a "world champion"); if one of those two get defeated, the victor of that facing off is positioned to be champion.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Deontay Wilder's title lineage stretches from Vitali Klitschko, who stretches from being the last champion from Lennox Lewis, the last man to be undisputed champion (eventual belt politics aside).

Lennox Lewis ---> Vitali/Wladimir Klistchko ---> twin title lineages

Fury vs Wilder is now the fight to determine the undisputed champion of the heavyweight division (if the IBF move happens, no one will actually consider the new IBF champion a "world champion"); if one of those two get defeated, the victor of that facing off is positioned to be champion.

lmao....

wilder's reign stretches from stiverne... Stiverne beat no one for the belt besides arreola....
Vitali was never "the guy" Wlad was, as he beat multiple different champs over a decade.. Vitali beat sanders and kirk johnson...

[STREET CLEANER]

These titles are crap. You rather go with the linear champ or at the worst The Ring ratings.

These titles are meaningless for the public. Too many of them and too many in one sanctioning body

[soul_survivor]

Until someone beats him, everyone knows Fury is THE heavyweight champ. No one outside of Alabama even knows who the Bronze Bomber is and no one would know Glazkov from Adam.

That's that.

/thread

[Elroy1]

Elroy -

Nobody is telling you that being undisputed champion should mean anything to you. All that's been said is that undisputed champion has a definition and Tyson Fury is not the undisputed champion. Tyson Fury is also not a falafel, but nobody is saying how much or how little you should care about falafels.

Klitschko would have been allowed to fight for the WBC title had he reached an agreement to fight the WBC champion. As for Wladimir fighting for the vacant WBC title, there is nothing in the rules that would allow that and none of the other organizations have done anything similar.

All of the sanctioning bodies are corrupt except for the IBF.

If Fury is stripped, it will be Fury's fault. Nobody forced him to agree to a voluntary defense against Klitschko when the mandatory was due.

WHAT? WLADIMIR had a clause, THAT overrides any bloody IBF mandatory OBVIOUSLY since the beaten champ is obviously of the highest contender status since he HAD the bloody title to begin with!!

ONLY a member of the IBF could have brought themselves to type such a thing!!

[Box-Office]

Until someone beats him, everyone knows Fury is THE heavyweight champ. No one outside of Alabama even knows who the Bronze Bomber is and no one would know Glazkov from Adam.

That's that.

/thread

Casual fans drive the sport. Not hard cores.

[Scipio2009]

that makes no sense fury was the ibf mandatory to klitschko

Tyson Fury was the challenger for the WBO belt, not the IBF.

[Eff Pandas]

I don't see the allure of a unified champion these days & Klitschko is maybe the biggest example. I feel like he's had a bunch of ****ty mandatory fights that he's had to have to maintain all these belts & with the activity level of fighters today that severely injuries your resume & severely limits my ability to see competitive fights. Idc if a guy gots 1 belt or all of em (you do usually need at least 1 belt to be in contention of being the best) I wanna see him fight the top guys each time out & that tells me you are the best guy out there not being champion of the corrupt title belts.