If I were Hearn/Joshua on the Ruiz rematch negotiations...

[Motorcity Cobra]

Hearn has only one card when he's negotiating.

So easy for the other side to take advantage of.

You can't do that with Bobfather.

True because Bob would've locked Ruiz up for a 3 fight contract which extends 5 more fights if you fight in a championship fight, which is the very next fight

[Phenom]

Yea PM me *****...lets do it...oh are you a subscriber to 78 and co cause i'll kick the sh,it out of him too...like I told him 4 yrs ago. lol

Your anger is manifesting into something ugly you don't want to let that consume you bruv
who cares about you being wrong on Wilder v Breazeale and AJ v Ruiz and almost every other fight don't let that define you

Never let failure get in your heart mate...

[sicko]

You guys do know the Belts don't stay Unified allowing Joshua to fight anybody for it right? If Andy gets stripped the Belts will Scatter around. So no AJ cannot just move on and fight somebody else for all the belts

Again...HE LOST just to remind people who think he can just fight somebody else for a shot to get all the Belts Back

[Bullrider]

Anyone knows how much Brant made in the Murata rematch?

Nobody knows, eh? It just went smoothly without any clown crying lowball.

It's because no Haymon fighter is involved.

[Bullrider]

Im no particular fan of Haymon but if he’s advising Andy, Does anyone really think he’s going to tell Andy to do something stupid?

Really?

Like he advised Ortiz to turn down $7 million, eh?

Talk about stupid.

[andocom]

Im no particular fan of Haymon but if he’s advising Andy, Does anyone really think he’s going to tell Andy to do something stupid?

The question is, stupid for Andy or stupid for PBC, which do you think is Haymon's priority if the two are in conflict.

Lets assume Andy is locked into a flat fee rematch with very little wiggle room legally as seems to be the case, maybe Haymon looks at that and thinks maybe its not a bad idea to draw it out, cost Matchroom the Saudi site fee, let some belts scatter, pick up a belt or two via in house unification fights that aren't flat fee fights on a Matchroom event and finally after Andy's on the shelf a while with legal issues make the fight, its still going to be for the same fee right?

Thats great for PBC, meanwhile Andy's burnt a lot of goodwill, lost legal fees and momentum.

[4truth]

Really?

Like he advised Ortiz to turn down $7 million, eh?

Talk about stupid.

Might have been smart. Worse than turning it down would have been to fail a prefight drug test.

[MDPopescu]

Im no particular fan of Haymon but if he’s advising Andy, Does anyone really think he’s going to tell Andy to do something stupid?

The question is, stupid for Andy or stupid for PBC, which do you think is Haymon's priority if the two are in conflict.

Lets assume Andy is locked into a flat fee rematch with very little wiggle room legally as seems to be the case, maybe Haymon looks at that and thinks maybe its not a bad idea to draw it out, cost Matchroom the Saudi site fee, let some belts scatter, pick up a belt or two via in house unification fights that aren't flat fee fights on a Matchroom event and finally after Andy's on the shelf a while with legal issues make the fight, its still going to be for the same fee right?

Thats great for PBC, meanwhile Andy's burnt a lot of goodwill, lost legal fees and momentum.

... Haymon protects his fighters, but in order to be able to protect them, he has to protect PBC business first...

[Dbt]

This is not going to trial. Hearn cannot afford to have AJ on the shelf and belts being scattered. Any talk of legal action is empty threats

With the way Ruiz is acting, I wouldn't be suprised if Eddie Hearn would want to take legal action over Ruiz. Joshua wouldn't be shelved, the case would be Matchroom vs Ruiz, Joshua could still fight, but the belts would indeed be scattered.

Ruiz would lose all his money he made in the first fight, all his belts and be known as a diva ducker. Saudi Arabia is Hearns way of taking away Ruiz's focus. Ruiz cried about going to the UK, Hearn said **** it, see you in Saudi then.

[Ray*]

I kinda agree, Joshua has had like 23 fights. Still only 30, depends on what they want to do, but I have always said they shouldn’t do the rematch anyways because Ruiz would stop him again. This is the perfect excuse not to, go fight someone else, do the litigation thing if they think they have a iron clad contract with Team Ruiz.

Let the belts be stripped by the organisations, then fight your way back up. One thing I know is this, the organisations are greedy, within a fight or two they would make Joshua the mandatory because no matter how many times he loses he is still the cash cow at HW.

And if he gets to be the mandatory no one is winning a purse bid against him. If they don’t want to mediate with Team Ruiz, then take him to court. The issue is quite simple, if you think you have a great case then take Ruiz to court, that’s the best thing for boxing, to not just teach him a lesson but to save boxing. Because boxing is shady already and to be honest currently on a contract is saving boxing from going to the gutter. And if Team Ruiz is allowed to get away with breaching their signed contract then other boxers would do the same thing in years to come.

So if you think you have a contract that gives you the rights over Ruiz then sue him... simple. Let him sit on the shelf and move on to other opponents.