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  • #11
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
    Would make sense, but no way are they taking that risk.
    Look at his how his fans freak the fuk out at the mention of Ortiz. Not gonna happen. Not when they have trash can Whyte ready to go.
    LOL, Ain't that the truth. You got it right Foxx. AJ fans are literally ready to piss their pants at the mere mentioning of Luis Ortiz' name.

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    • #12
      Nah lets focus on the real fight on april 13 against Wilder-fury winner.
      Before all this. We tired settling for fights that are good enough, instead of having what we really want.
      It’s like seeing cotto-floyd, instead of pac-floyd in 2012 it’s like every fight they took during 2009-2012 we were settling like “oh it’s okay this a good fight” lol meh

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
        WHY can’t we get this fight?
        The fight makes no sense for the A-side and it's not a mandatory. Non-mandatory fights that make no business sense for the A-side don't happen.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          The fight makes no sense for the A-side and it's not a mandatory. Non-mandatory fights that make no business sense for the A-side don't happen.
          Ortiz was mandatory for AJ at one point then mysteriously when it was getting close to time for negotiations period or purse bid, he removed from the rankings which is when he applied for the rankings under the WBC to fight Wilder!

          Don’t mention when he got popped cuz he was still ranked with the WBC but yet WBA removed him who aren’t known for catching anyone in their drug test program!

          It’s a good match up, it makes lots of sense!

          Now, Whyte vs AJ 2 doesn’t make sense!

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          • #15
            Ortiz makes sense, for these reasons:

            -Hearn and Joshua love beating up 40 year olds

            -Hearn and Joshua love beating up 40 year olds coming off defeats

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            • #16
              Hell! Even Dillian Whyte won't fight him. He scared shitless of the 60 year old man to the point of him jumping to a new sanctioning body in order to avoid him.

              Like I said before, he is the bogeyman of the heavyweight division. British fans like to shit all over his resume but won't give him the opportunity to prove himself against one of their elite fighters

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
                Ortiz was mandatory for AJ at one point then mysteriously when it was getting close to time for negotiations period or purse bid, he removed from the rankings which is when he applied for the rankings under the WBC to fight Wilder!
                No, that's not what happened. Ortiz lost his WBA ranking for taking the WBC fight. He took the WBC fight because Haymon promised him an immediate title shot if he signed, while Hearn was delaying the WBA mandatory as long as possible.


                It’s a good match up, it makes lots of sense!
                It makes a lot of sense for fans to want to see it. It makes absolutely zero business sense. Therefore, it's not going to happen.

                Why would Hearn risk three world heavyweight titles against a Haymon fighter in a non-mandatory fight, especially when that fighter is a dangerous puncher?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  I must respectfully disagree with you. Ortiz is strong and punches like a fucking mule kick. He has the size and power to put a serious hurting on any opponent. He is 6'4 and weighs 241 lbs. There is no way that Joshua would have survived the shots that Povetkin had landed on him had that been Luis Ortiz. He is simply a natural heavyweight who is larger and stronger than Povetkin. Likewise with Sasha; Ortiz would have done even more damaged to him than Joshua did. He keeps his chin tucked and has a much better defense than AJ. He would have stopped Povetkin in less than four rounds.
                  You said Joshua doesn't want to fight Ortiz because he hits too hard but when given fighters who hit harder who Joshua beat, you come up with more nonsense. Do you ever stop with this bull****?

                  Ortiz wouldn't have landed the shots Povetkin did on the very fact that Ortiz is slow and not an attacking fighter. Joshua would have all the time in the world to set his punches up. Joshua had to have his wits about him against Povetkin because he was willing to throw down, Ortiz isn't.

                  Povetkin hits harder than Ortiz and proven as such against better fighters. He's been a lot more consistent than Ortiz has. Povetkin has the much better credentials. Trying to say otherwise is nothing but you being incredibly biased. God are you Wilder fans deeply insecure.

                  Ortiz does more damage to Povetkin than Joshua did? Why are you breathing the same air as me? Why? You're talking absolute crap.

                  Wlad and Joshua couldn't beat Povetkin in less than 4 rounds, but Ortiz could? Hahahahahaha. Ortiz couldn't even get his best win out of there in less than 4 rounds in Jennings, but he gets the superior fighter out quicker? Ah, man. Jennings even won a couple of rounds for gods sake.

                  Nothing you say has any value to it what so ever. You're just chatting grade A garbage. All the facts and logic are against you but your insecurity wants to make Wilder look better by claiming Ortiz is some kind of beast. Ha.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
                    Ortiz was mandatory for AJ at one point then mysteriously when it was getting close to time for negotiations period or purse bid, he removed from the rankings which is when he applied for the rankings under the WBC to fight Wilder!

                    Don’t mention when he got popped cuz he was still ranked with the WBC but yet WBA removed him who aren’t known for catching anyone in their drug test program!

                    It’s a good match up, it makes lots of sense!

                    Now, Whyte vs AJ 2 doesn’t make sense!
                    Ortiz WAS removed from the WBA rankings due to him failing a test. No other reason.

                    There was going to be no bidding or a purse bid due to Ortiz instead going for the weaker fighter for much less money. If he wanted, and he didn't fail the test, then he would have got his shot at Joshua. Ortiz is the only one to blame for how things turned out, not anybody else.

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                    • #20
                      Ortiz Vs. Povetkin on the undercard of Wilder/Joshua: Make that happen

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