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  • #21
    Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post


    eubank also said he was afraid of roy jones and didn't want to fight him
    tyson straight ducked roy.....
    and toney for someone so weight drained only started fighting with his mouth open in the 7th round on or somethin
    and by then jones was fighting with his mouth open too
    Thats absolute bull****,Collins did everything possible to get a fight with Roy but Roy wanted none of it.
    Collins stepped in the ring with Mike Mccallum in only his 17th fight and fought Reggie Johnson not long after yet he ducks Roy when hes in the prime of his life coming off victories over Eubank & Benn?

    Roy Jones was a paper champion in every division,all his paper straps dont mean **** when he constantly avoided the best and ran to other weight classes.

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    • #22
      not compared to a lot of fighters around today

      he has the best resume after pacquioa imo

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
        Barkley was the IBF smw champion when Toney challenged him for his belt, Charles Williams was also his mandatory for his smw belt.
        Yes Barkley held the IBF sm belt thats common knowledge, but what you don't realize that before he defended against Toney, he fought at 178 in a bout against Robert Folley and right before that he fought at 175 for the WBA title against Thomas Hearns. So Barkley had to drop weight to defend that IBF 168lb. belt defense against Toney. Barkley was so weight drained he moved to cruiser/heavyweight right after that.

        Yes Prince CharlesWilliams might have been ranked at supermiddleweight for the bout with Toney, but that was so the bout could be made. Williams fought at lightheavy in his previous 37 bouts including 9 title defences at 175. He got a ranking at supermiddle without fighting there first!

        But nobody especially James Toney credited the loses due to weight, as they shouldn't Toney's to Jones.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by elephant man View Post
          He was in disgraceful condition and deserved to get his ass handed to him.
          LMAO

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          • #25
            Originally posted by elephant man View Post
            Thats absolute bull****,Collins did everything possible to get a fight with Roy but Roy wanted none of it.
            Collins stepped in the ring with Mike Mccallum in only his 17th fight and fought Reggie Johnson not long after yet he ducks Roy when hes in the prime of his life coming off victories over Eubank & Benn?
            In April 2006, when Jones was mulling whether he would fight again, I asked former HBO Sports president Seth Abraham for his thoughts on this enigma wrapped in a riddle.

            “His drive was to do things that were of interest to him, but not necessarily to fight the very best middleweights, super middleweights and light heavyweights who were out there,” Abraham responded. “I think Roy’s legacy in the sport absolutely will suffer because he chose not to do everything he could to make himself as great as he might have been.”
            http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...-jones-legacy/

            McClellan and Jackson both had belts when Jones was at mw and he never made any attempt to unify with them
            Last edited by General Zod; 01-23-2010, 06:44 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Marcov View Post
              But nobody especially James Toney credited the loses due to weight, as they shouldn't Toney's to Jones.
              Toney has said that he had come to terms with that loss and wanted to have a rematch at lhw. A rematch with Toney would of been more meaningful than fights with the Lou de Vales of the world at LHW.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                if you've watched other toney fights you'll notice the commentators are always on about toney's weights

                think ricky hatton
                This works both ways, should Jones beable to use the weight loss excuse for looking like crap in his Tarver Trilogy?
                Think Tarver who was back to his more normal self after his fight with Hopkins.
                Last edited by General Zod; 01-23-2010, 09:58 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Agentsmith View Post
                  This works both ways, should Jones beable to use the weight loss excuse for looking like crap in his Tarver Trilogy?
                  Think Tarver who was back to his more normal self after his fight with Hopkins. Think Archie Moore who worked his way up the hw ranking while defending his lhw belts as well
                  your right, i forgot jones blew up between fights on a regular basis

                  with muscle, not fat niether...dumb me

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by tehMatrix View Post
                    your right, i forgot jones blew up between fights on a regular basis

                    with muscle, not fat niether...dumb me
                    Tarver lost more muscle than Jones, he was 220 lbs for the Rocky film and had to get down to 175 lbs. Jones was around 200 lbs and had to get down to 175 lbs.
                    220-185=35 lbs
                    200-185=15 lbs

                    I use 185 lbs because come fight night thats what they would both rehydrate back up to.

                    You cant have it both ways, if Toney cant use the weight drained excuse then neither can Jones.

                    When Jones and Tarver walked into their training camps they should of naturally lost a lot of thier extra muscle by then as well. They had no reason to continue with their hw weightlifting regimes.
                    Last edited by General Zod; 01-23-2010, 07:03 AM.

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                    • #30
                      by Greg Logan
                      Philadelphia promoter Russell Peltz brought Bryant Brannon to the slaughter Friday night at the Theater at Madison Square Garden with tough talk and a harsh assessment of how [Roy] Jones stacks up against the all-time greats. By 2:23 of the second round, Brannon was on the canvas for the third and final time, and Jones was celebrating the sixth successful defense of his IBF super-middleweight title.

                      It's true that Brannon (16-1, 10 knockouts), despite his No. 1 contender status, lacked experience and brought only crude skills and strength to challenge Jones (33-0, 29 KOs). Jones' curse is that there is no suitable opposition to validate his skills to the satisfaction of boxing's graybeards.

                      According to Stanley Levin, Jones' attorney, IBF heavyweight champion Michael Moorer, two light-heavyweight champions, Virgil Hill and Henry Maske, and the other three super-middleweight champs, Frankie Liles, Steve Collins and Vincenzo Nardiello, all have said no to Jones recently. IBF middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins last week declined a rematch with Jones.
                      by jon saraceno
                      If Michael Moorer wants to answer a real challenge, he'll open the door Roy Jones Jr. continues to knock on.

                      Moments after lazily dispatching veteran Mike McCallum Friday night via unanimous decision, Jones, the new 175-pound champion, repeated his desire for Moorer to defend his heavyweight crown against him.
                      there are more, but it's just pretty much repeating itself

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