Leonard Ellerbe schooling UK casuals

[Robbie Barrett]

Canelo vs.

Angulo: 350k
Lara: 325k
Cotto: 938k
Khan: 600k
Smith: 300k
Chavez: 1.0m

Canelo isn't a big draw all by himself. Wide fluctuations based on who he was fighting and HOW BIG THE FIGHT WAS.

Wilder vs anyone. 0 PPV
Joshua vs anyone. 0 PPV


You're proving yourself wrong but are too stupid to realise it.

[drew1830]

Wilder vs anyone. 0 PPV
Joshua vs anyone. 0 PPV


You're proving yourself wrong but are too stupid to realise it.

So, yes, I summed up your argument accurately.

[Robbie Barrett]

So, yes, I summed up your argument accurately.

You can't sum up **** pal. You're too stupid to do anything.

"This guys that does 12k tickets and 1 mil gates is going to do 11mil + gates against this guy that never fought in America"

[drew1830]

You can't sum up **** pal. You're too stupid to do anything.

Your entire argument is that they've never had a PPV before so therefore their fight couldn't possibly be a big PPV draw.

I shouldn't have to point out the obvious hole in that argument.

But, yes, I did sum it up accurately as any reading of my previous posts would confirm.

[Raggamuffin]

So why is it a given that Wilder v AJ does more buys in the US?

Wilder has no evidence to prove he can shift PPVs. He’s not a national star. I mean, he’s a great talker an excellent self promoter, a good fighter, an unbeaten heavyweight champion who can brutally KO people. Yet a Mexican and a Kazakh who can’t speak 5 words of English between them are bigger stars than him in his own country?

Why is that? Because Wilder’s promotion and management is a joke. They are at best incompetent. So you’ll forgive Matchroom and AJ for not listening a word Leonard Ellerbe has to say. He’s frankly a self serving turd of a promoter/advisor/manager/leech whatever he is.



Because Drew said a fight between two unbeaten big hitting heavyweight champions generates more money in Vegas, so askin whether the event tonight, which met that criteria would have done better numbers over there.

This is why you negotiate fights. When you look at the gates here and abroad, there is your answer. GG and Canelo just proved this.

There are all kinds of projections and risks going on. In America both fighters bring something to the table and if promoted right both can make millions.

[Robbie Barrett]

Your entire argument is that they've never had a PPV before so therefore their fight couldn't possibly be a big PPV draw.

I shouldn't have to point out the obvious hole in that argument.

But, yes, I did sum it up accurately as any reading of my previous posts would confirm.

My whole argument is they aren't draws in America, which them not being on PPV ever supports.

Every big fight in American history had a big draw fighting. Neither Wilder or Joshua are big draws.

Common sense is the fight will do badly. ******s LIKE YOU say it will do great. With no evidence to back your opinion up.

[Raggamuffin]

Because Drew said a fight between two unbeaten big hitting heavyweight champions generates more money in Vegas, so askin whether the event tonight, which met that criteria would have done better numbers over there.

No. Neither is a star here in the US.

[sicko]

Dude what you guys don’t get is that people paid or were willing to pay a lot for that fight
For wilder vs aj they won’t
Neither one are stars

NO they would make big money in America easily because they're Heavyweights. Of course they won't do Mayweather money but they would draw a much larger gate here in America compared to fighting in front of a bigger crowd for a smaller gate in the UK

Neither one are big stars in America...YET but momentum no question is building for Wilder vs AJ even hear in America. Despite not going to the UK, Wilder did a great job making his rounds talking to the American Media about the potential of this fight

[Chuckguy]

NO they would make big money in America easily because they're Heavyweights. Of course they won't do Mayweather money but they would draw a much larger gate here in America compared to fighting in front of a bigger crowd for a smaller gate in the UK

Neither one are big stars in America...YET but momentum no question is building for Wilder vs AJ even hear in America. Despite not going to the UK, Wilder did a great job making his rounds talking to the American Media about the potential of this fight

I didnt even bother reading your post cause I saw the interview on the breakfast club and I liked what he had to say now let me read your post

[Holler]

Vegas gate money for a big fight is far more than even the UK stadium fights, even with 4x less capacity. It's just a fact.

Joshua v Wilder in Vegas would have a very big gate receipt, i'm sure.

It may be more lucrative, although Vegas sales have been soft in recent fights, and with one foreign fighter and one American who has yet to show a massive following they may struggle, but even then the atmosphere there sucks. There's too many people who are only there because it's the biggest show in town at that point and many of them are completely apathetic.

I'm enjoying seeing these fights take place in front of crowds who really enjoy what they're seeing. The spectacle even for those watching on TV is really impressive in these massive stadia. So what if they can make slightly more fighting in front of some bored gamblers? Given I won't see any of that money I'm happy for them to stay where they are.