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Old 03-25-2013, 07:33 AM #11
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i had hopkins winning both. dawson and roy clearly beat him and if wright got the decision over BHop i wouldnt complain. but there is no doubt he beat taylor, calzaghe too.

ineffective aggression and missing punches dont score points. clean punches landed, defense and ring generalship does.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:22 AM #12
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I'll have to rewatch them. At the times these fights came on, I hated Hopkins with a seething passion.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:52 AM #13
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taylor won both. hopkins ended the first fight so strongly but he did next to nothing the first 8 rounds. second fight was like the first, minus the strong rally. the second one was one of the worst fights i've ever seen.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:15 AM #14
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I remember i felt Hopkins won the first. I felt Hopkins maybe one the second but I wasn't really surprised at the decision it could have gone either way to me
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:48 AM #15
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I thought Hopkins clearly won the first fight. Surprised at the amount of people who thought Taylor won. I can't see how Taylor won the first fight.

I scored the second fight for Taylor.

These fights were clear signs that Hopkins, although still a top fighter at the age of 40, wasn't the fighter he once was.
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Good stuff i need to watch both again.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:42 PM #17
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I scored the 2 fight 115-113 for Hopkins I scored the first fight 114-114 Draw

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Old 03-25-2013, 01:45 PM #18
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First fight for Hopkins despite a very slow start.

Second fight don't remember but wasn't disgusted with the decision by any means.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:51 PM #19
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Taylor won both.
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I think at best a case can be made that Taylor deserved a draw in one or both fights but they were close enough that no one can convincingly argue that Taylor won either fight.

The first fight I thought Hopkins definitely deserved the nod. Here are some scores:

Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: 114-114 Draw
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
TheSweetScience.com: 117-111
Taylor
Harold Lederman, HBO: 115-113
Taylor
Kevin Iole, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Hopkins
Max Kellerman, HBO: 115-113
Hopkins
Michael Katz, Reuters: 115-113
Hopkins
Paul Upham, SecondsOut.com: 115-113 Hopkins
Associated Press: 114-113 Hopkins
Ramiro Gonzalez, La Opinion: 116-112 Hopkins
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Hopkins
David Mayo, Grand Rapids Press:
116-112 Hopkins
Keith Idec, New Jersey Herald-News: 116-112 Hopkins
David Avila, Riverside Press
Enterprise: 116-112 Hopkins
Tim Smith, New York Daily News:
116-112 Hopkins
Ron Borges,Boston Globe: 116-112
Hopkins
Joe Santoloquito, The Ring
Magazine: 116-113 Hopkins
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily
News: 117-111 Hopkins
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 117-111 Hopkins
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Hopkins
Ivan Goldman, The Ring Magazine:
117-111 Hopkins

The second fight wasn't a whole lot different although Hopkins started earlier. Taylor threw more punches in both fights but Hopkins landed more in both.
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