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The Ring Mag: Vlad Loses To Holmes, Tyson, Liston. Really?
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Originally posted by New England View Postthat's funny, i seem to remember lennox lewis ripping vitalis face to shreds..
if thats not a TKO victory i don't know what is.
part of vitali's job is to protect that eastern european face of his from getting easter euro fuucked up by clean and legal punches
oh, and for your racist record, i've heard lots of talk that the Klithscko family actually finds its origins in ASIA
thats right
your heros are from northern and western Asia.
that's gotta suck to know, being such a devout racist and all.
all of this is coming from a second gen italian american who thinks a great fighter can be blue and still get his support
i just don't get racists
i do not get them.
We all forget that Liston, although very good for his time, and could beat almost anybody, was as slow as molasses, and wouldn't be able to keept up inthese days. I' sorry to say this because I liked Liston's fighting. Also "reach" is EXAGGERATED as it has to be divided in half, and the shouldrewr width also muct be taken into consideration. ALSO, how squarely the fighter stands.
As for Tyson, at his best, I'd back him to beat ANYBODY, no matter how big, nor how good.
The Klitschkos would both give Holmes a bit of a beating, I'm afraid.
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Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Postis Chris John a HOF?
Chris John, Obviously not. But to be fair i think even Vitalis flawed record has more defences against top10 fighters than chris john.
Not to mention Chris John is probably a fringe top5 guy in his division based on abilities.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View Postwhat is Vitali's signature moment other than the loss to Lewis? Maybe its just me but I don't know how he is a HOF'er.
--highest KO percentage in heavyweight boxing history
--never been knocked out or even knocked down as a pro
--came back after 3+ year absence to win back the WBC championship, a feat with few parallels in any other sport.
--First ballot lock for HOF
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Sonny Liston: uneducated, dumb black man and gambling addict whose fights were mostly mob fixes. When he got into the mob for too much money and they figured out people didn't like him as champ, they ordered him to lose to the more popular with whites Cassius Clay. So much for Sonny Liston.
Read Nick Tosches' The Devil and Sonny Liston for the bitter truth about this guy.Last edited by Grinderman; 08-30-2011, 09:31 AM.
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Originally posted by Grinderman View PostVitali Klitschko:
--highest KO percentage in heavyweight boxing history
--never been knocked out or even knocked down as a pro
--came back after 3+ year absence to win back the WBC championship, a feat with few parallels in any other sport.
--First ballot lock for HOF
But who is on his resume that qualifies him for HOF status? I mean what big win does he have?
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Originally posted by Grinderman View PostSonny Liston: uneducated, dumb black man and gambling addict whose fights were mostly mob fixes. When he got into the mob for too much money and they figured out people didn't like him as champ, they ordered him to lose to the more popular with whites Cassius Clay. So much for Sonny Liston.
since you listed his race in your lil rant trying to discredit him
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