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Old 09-15-2005, 11:57 PM #31
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The tyson nuthuggers are something else. The ref was biased for Douglas? C'mon. If anything it would have been in Octavio Meiran's best interest to speed up the count and be biased towards tyson. He was the champ and in dk's pocket. Who had more money to throw around? DK or Douglas? Who had more power to give choice ref gigs?

All the apologists claim tyson was past his prime when he lost to Douglas, but yet they claim a full FIFTEEN YEARS later that little mikey was going to clean out the heavyweight division. How the **** is that supposed to happen?

No version of tyson beats Douglas that night. Face it, mikey was good for a short time but not all that great.
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:56 PM #32
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All the apologists claim tyson was past his prime when he lost to Douglas, but yet they claim a full FIFTEEN YEARS later that little mikey was going to clean out the heavyweight division. How the **** is that supposed to happen?
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:30 PM #33
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Ummm....Tyson got his **** kicked in that night, there is no way to cut it differently.

Buster whooped his ass. Tyson was bar far the superior fighter, and if they had fought a rematch, Tyson would have mopped the floor with him. Tyson did not train for the fight, spent the night before drinking and carousing, ****ing the Japanese girls in his words.
He did not take the fight seriously. Any fighter can be beaten, anyone and everyone has the ability to lose. Tyson was way overconfident, stopped training, and abandoned the very skills that got him the undisputed title: defense and punching ability, not power.
I completley agree with you that he didnt train or take the fight serious which cost him but it doesnt take the fact away that he knocked douglas out. if the refree counted correctly Tyson would be declared the winner. he would have then realized that he could have lost the fight (which happened) and would have been better prepared for future fights. lets end the thread with that.
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Old 09-17-2005, 11:48 PM #34
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If Tyson didn't lose to Douglas, his nuthuggers would say that was in his prime. They would say he was in his prime until the Holyfield fight.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:44 AM #35
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If Tyson didn't lose to Douglas, his nuthuggers would say that was in his prime. They would say he was in his prime until the Holyfield fight.

he WAS in his prime but he did not train for the fight like a dumass. When tyson's eye got swollen, his corner put a bag of tap water over it. Douglas was killing him. But then tyson managed to throw a punch which knocked douglas down. And Douglas was on the ground for more than 10 seconds.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:08 PM #36
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Buster wouldn't have been on the ground if the ref's count wasn't behind the real count. He was waiting to get up at 9, and was simply folllowing the ref's count.

Sure Tyson knocked him, down, but Buster KTFO of Tyson and he didn't know where he was at. He looked like a ****ing ****** trying to grab his mouthpiece.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:21 PM #37
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same questions over and over. tyson was not in his best shape and got ko. a tyson in his best shape would ko douglas than is simple fact. but tyson didnt so he have himself to blame over and out.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:44 PM #38
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Surely if Tyson and Douglas would have fought again, Tyson would have destructed him. But on that night, Buster was ready and outboxed Tyson.

YES, Tyson was in his prime.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:16 PM #39
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Buster wouldn't have been on the ground if the ref's count wasn't behind the real count. He was waiting to get up at 9, and was simply folllowing the ref's count.

Sure Tyson knocked him, down, but Buster KTFO of Tyson and he didn't know where he was at. He looked like a ****ing ****** trying to grab his mouthpiece.
Why would he wait to get up at 9???? what kinda **** is that?
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:18 PM #40
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The same reason that standing eight counts are given if the rules allow it. The same reason the ref counts to eight, even if the guy gets up at the count of four....gives them longer to clear their heads.

Buster got up at the count of 9 because he needed as much time as he could get. When he got to his feet he was out of it...and damn lucky the bell sounded after the count, otherwise Tyson would've finished the fight on a KO or TKO if there had been 30 seconds left in the round.

Bottom Line: Buster got a long count as the referee was clearly two seconds behind the ring-side official...shouldnt have happened, but it did. and then Mike lost.

Another point: if Tyson wasnt so dumb as to listen to Don Kings lies and fire Kevin Rooney, he would never have been in the position he was in that night where he needed a miracle uppercut...
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