11-28-2020, 10:14 AM
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By the way, I contacted Boxrec yesterday, and they have already corrected Harry Wills DOB!
Image View Removed. Please Click Here. It should be recognized that the footage that some of you choose to judge him on, he was in fact 3 years older than we thought. I don't know if there was ever any footage of prime Wills. Last edited by travestyny; 11-28-2020 at 10:23 AM. |
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11-28-2020, 01:09 PM
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11-28-2020, 03:45 PM
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11-28-2020, 03:55 PM
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11-28-2020, 03:58 PM
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You say it was in the second... I have a feeling that there is a lot of false info going on about this fight... Just trying to figure out why I had this so backwards. Ok... I figured out why I got it wrong... lol. Confused him with Paulo U. Last edited by billeau2; 11-28-2020 at 04:03 PM. |
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11-28-2020, 04:04 PM
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11-28-2020, 04:06 PM
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11-28-2020, 04:15 PM
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Again: When did I EVER say Dempsey Won a fight against a fellow ATG? Dempsey, in fact, never won a match against a fellow ATG... And neither did most heavyweight champs, at least prime for prime. Regarding the first question? Lets make it easy: Compare Tunney who Dempsey lost to to Castillo. Compare Duran to Castillo...who beat Sugar Ray and lost the second fight... compare Lamotta to Castillo... Now compare Castillo to Fullmur, who was a tough, Hombre, but no ATG really... compare Basillo to Castillo.... closer but Casillo may have gotten the nod in many eyes while no one would mistake Castillo for an ATG. |
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11-28-2020, 04:20 PM
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Give me a specific definition of what you think makes an all-time great. |
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11-28-2020, 05:10 PM
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When we evaluate fighters... if there was a textbook way of showing hierarchy we could fold this very section up and away... There is no singular thing that makes an ATG, there is consensus... If I say Gatti was great, I would get some acquiescence for sure... But I guarantee you ultimately it would come out that, while he was a great presence, he was not a great fighter. Not for any particular reason either... Your asking me to do the equivalent of prove a negative... It does not make sense logically to do so anymore than trying to set up a textbook criteria for ATG status. So sorry will have to pass on this one. And I lied I will tell you one more logical fallicy in the hopes you will not commit it: Saying that because one cannot prove a criteria for ATG that Castillo is one, is absurd. Last edited by billeau2; 11-28-2020 at 05:14 PM. |
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