Hagler vs. Leonard - Rematch

[Eff Pandas]

I think Hagler wins the rematch plus the trilogy fight.

[soul_survivor]

I am glad we agree it was negotiations which won Leonard the fight.

Leonard won because. Hagler swung his punches like a novice.

[fabie]

I was a huge fan for both but really was disappointed with Leonard after Hagler waited 7 years (If I recall that correctly) and his prime was way past that. I thought that the fight was very close and Leonard is very good at "stealing rounds" with his flashiness while Hagler was slow and again, past his prime.

This was the first one...and Mayweather (like Leonard) did the same thing with Pacquiao.

But as a boxing fan, I love all of these 4 greats (in pure boxing terms and no favoritism).

[soul_survivor]

I was a huge fan for both but really was disappointed with Leonard after Hagler waited 7 years (If I recall that correctly) and his prime was way past that. I thought that the fight was very close and Leonard is very good at "stealing rounds" with his flashiness while Hagler was slow and again, past his prime.

This was the first one...and Mayweather (like Leonard) did the same thing with Pacquiao.

But as a boxing fan, I love all of these 4 greats (in pure boxing terms and no favoritism).

Hagler waited for the Leonard fight since 1980? Lol

[wmute]

Leonard won because. Hagler swung his punches like a novice.

Indeed! That is why Leonard did everything he could to dodge a rematch.

[Joe Beamish]

Hold it, dear. Plain logic, intuition and experience says that if anyone was avoiding a rematch, it was Leonard. Hagler did not want to be dicked with Leonard style. He had already been out-negotiated in a near shutout at the table for the first match, mesmerized by the money they were waving. Whatever was coming his way next, it was certainly not a nice clean rematch in a timely manner. Not with Leonard calling the shots.

Leonard also put boxing on a sure path to 12 round championship fights, by negotiating for 12 in that fight.

The WBC was powerless if the fighters had simply told them to screw themselves. They would have backed right down and accepted 15 rounds for their cut. But Leonard did not want to look at Hagler for 15. Over twelve, just maybe he could squeeze by. Leonard never did have the pride he thought he had. Almost all his negotiations in all big fights were looking for an easier way out. Because of his negotiating power, he was usually given that out, or, rather, bought it.

For Hagler, he negotiated for a ring the size of a casino parking lot and gloves the size of resthome comforters. Against Duran II he waited until Duran was a fat hog with no proper time to repair. This is not pride, I do not care what anyone calls it. Out of the ring trickery was a big part of some of Leonard's most famous wins.

Another individual who will rely more and more on negotiating trickery is Canelo. Mark my word, boys. NO rematch with Canelo is getting done easy for GGG. Canelo already showed his future once when he gave up his championship rather than face GGG. The tactic will be to let GGG age more, while De la Hoya and his boy stall. When they feel GGG is truly through, they will step right up.

If Canelo manages to negotiate a win over GGG, no one on here is foolish enough to think he will then face Charlo, are they? If you want to see some negotiating, wait for that one. They will throw another $200, 000 at Charlo for every stitch of advantage he gives up. In the end it will be illegal for him to throw a punch without a million dollar fine.

I am tired of these punks who will not fight the best fighters in timely fashion. Mayweather was the absolute worst for this, and perpetuated this trend all by himself.

Quality post. I could write this well about boxing if I knew as much. But I usually don't.

And I love Leonard. But what you say is the truth.