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Old 01-05-2018, 02:32 PM #31
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Losing, in the grand scheme of things does not detract from a career overall.

Think of any all time great, they probably lost didn’t they?

Thing is, people these days are way too easily bought into the whole marketing BS and promotions on the whole undefeated angle. Yeah, being undefeated is a great thing to be able to say about your career - you are a fighter and no one beat you - that is obviously a positive. But if you can’t say that? So what? Was it not Ali himself that said “just lost a fight, that’s all” after Frazier beat him? Look how Ali’s career turned out.

Fact is it doesn’t really matter, people just fall way to deep into thinking it is. The Mayweather era didn’t help that much with that. Floyd is a great fighter with a damn fine record, granted, but many many people read into that as the standard model to be followed when it isn’t.

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Old 01-05-2018, 02:40 PM #32
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what's the point of being undefeated if your fights are boring. lomachenko was 1-1 when he beat russell 22-0
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Old 01-05-2018, 02:43 PM #33
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you gonna give golovkin credit then??
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:54 PM #34
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you gonna give golovkin credit then??
Similarly, are you going to give Floyd and Ward credit then?

If not, cease asking the same question you hypocrite.
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:56 PM #35
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you gonna give golovkin credit then??
He didn't beat Canelo. Not undefeated
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He didn't beat Canelo. Not undefeated
He didn't lose to Canelo. He's undefeated
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:13 PM #37
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He didn't lose to Canelo. He's undefeated
He tied, drawed, fought him to a stalemate, he failed to prove he was the superior man. You fight to win. As far as I'm concerned ties in professional sports are stupid as **** and just as bad as losing.
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Similarly, are you going to give Floyd and Ward credit then?

If not, cease asking the same question you hypocrite.
will give floyd credit but not ward. He lost that kovalev fight.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:36 PM #39
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He tied, drawed, fought him to a stalemate, he failed to prove he was the superior man. You fight to win. As far as I'm concerned ties in professional sports are stupid as **** and just as bad as losing.
Ok. That doesn't change the definition of the word
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If you want to use undefeated as the measure of greatness, then Sven Ottke is the second best SMW of all time since he retired 34-0, leaving Calaaghe as the greatest SMW of all time at 46-0.
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