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  • #21
    Originally posted by HitmanTommy View Post
    Mayweather by clear UD. Boxers today are FAR more disciplined, critical and specifically trained to maximize their strenghts than back on the old days.
    You should be looking at how they would have matched up stylistically, not making silly generalisations.

    Ray would have given Floyd hell.

    Not only was he just about the perfect fighter at his peak, he was also bigger, stronger and much more powerful than Floyd.

    Floyd wasn't even at his best at WW. At WW, he was a safety first fighter who liked to pot shot guys who he held speed advantages over.
    Last edited by robertzimmerman; 03-04-2019, 06:15 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by pretty boy_ View Post
      Many underestimate Mayweather's mental prowess and ring generalship. Mayweather doesn't beat his opponents physically, he destroys them egotistically.

      Mayweather takes all of a fighters weapons out of their toolkit. Oh, you have a knife, here's a shield to stop it. Oh ok, you have a gun, let me throw on a bullet-proof vest. Nah, did you think a rocket launcher was going to work, I'm going to hit you in the same place right on the top corner of your eyebrow to frustrate the hell out of you so you're so frustrated you can't pull the trigger.

      As frustrating as it is for some boxing fans to watch Floyd, just think of how frustrating it is to fight him. He's stronger than he looks, so you can't push him around how you want. His punches are with pin point accuracy so the consistent stinging is like the Chinese water torture. After the 3rd round, when he's picked up on your speed, he doesn't give you a clear angle to hit him.

      If Robinson can't get him in 3 rounds, Robinson will take an egotistical ass whooping.
      Nobody had more confidence than Ray. His ego was bigger than New York.

      Floyd is the one who's mentally weaker. Look at the stunts he's pulled over the years.

      Floyd would never have whooped Ray. He would have been a nightmare opponent for him.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
        Floyd Mayweather easily out-boxes Sugar Ray Robinson to a cool UD.

        Historians over glamorize and exaggerate the pre-ww2 era guys to the point of zealous, hero worship.

        Robinson, like Joe Louis, benefited from the "the bum of the month club," feasted on cab drivers, Euro Bums, hobos you name it. A lot of guys from that era were stat padders.

        Put Pacquiao or Mayweather in the 1920's era and they'd go 800-0 no sweat.
        Oh my.

        What a horrible post.

        Hopefully, you're just trolling.

        Easily outboxes a peak version of Ray Robinson?

        A guy who was one the finest fighters ever to grace the ring, who was bigger, stronger and more powerful than Floyd?

        Floyd wasn't even at his peak at WW. At WW, he had bad hands and was a safety first fighter.

        You really think that Floyd could have fought EVERY MONTH in the 20's? Ha!

        You think he could have done so without picking up a loss?

        And Manny too?

        GTFOH!

        You're living in a fantasy.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
          Oh my.

          What a horrible post.

          Hopefully, you're just trolling.

          Easily outboxes a peak version of Ray Robinson?

          A guy who was one the finest fighters ever to grace the ring, who was bigger, stronger and more powerful than Floyd?

          Floyd wasn't even at his peak at WW. At WW, he had bad hands and was a safety first fighter.

          You really think that Floyd could have fought EVERY MONTH in the 20's? Ha!

          You think he could have done so without picking up a loss?

          And Manny too?

          GTFOH!

          You're living in a fantasy.
          Mayweather outboxes Robinson to a UD and this is coming from a Mayweather hater.

          Robinson was good for his time but put him in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc. and he'd be just another regular contender. Pre-WW2 fighters are ancient and outdated compared to their advanced contemporaries.
          Last edited by HandsofIron; 03-05-2019, 09:54 AM.
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          • #25
            Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
            Mayweather outboxes Robinson to a UD and this is coming from a Mayweather hater.

            Robinson was good for his time but put him in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc. and he'd be just another regular contender. Pre-WW2 fighters are ancient and outdated compared to their advanced contemporaries.
            A regular contender?

            Ha!

            Okay.

            If you're not trolling, this is truly one of the most ignorant and dumbest things I've ever read on NSB.

            Instead of making ridiculous generalisations, you really need to go away and educate yourself on the subject.

            We have footage of Ray. We have footage of who he fought. Ray could have fought in ANY era.

            This is not sprinting or swimming.

            It's the noble art, where nothing has changed for years on end.

            Great fighters are simply great fighters who would be able to fight in any era of the sport.

            Not only was Ray one of the greatest fighters of all time, he also had advantages in height, reach and power over Floyd.

            Floyd wasn't even at his best at WW.

            For the most part, the WW versions of Floyd operated in a safety first manner, where he was happy to 'pot shot' slower opponents due to him having bad hands.

            The fact that needs explaining to you speaks volumes about the lack of knowledge that you possess.

            If that wasn't bad enough, you also believe that he could have fought every month.

            Ha!

            You won't be getting another reply.

            You are an absolute joker.

            You'd probably pick Floyd over Hearns.

            Run along.
            Last edited by robertzimmerman; 03-05-2019, 10:37 AM.

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            • #26
              Mayweather has never beat an atg level fighter in his prime so how could one know. Probably boxes well before getting caught and stopped. Ray is longer, as fast, stronger, much harder puncher, more durable. Considering they are using those old gloves that look like bag gloves. I doubt he'd eat body shots like he does in that era.

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              • #27
                Fantastic matchup and it's hard 2 root against TBE because he has the uncanny ability 2 adapt and be versatile. I guess it matters what Floyd we consider goes up against the original GOAT SRR

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                • #28
                  Robinson was the master at setting traps. He could fight moving forward and backward. Dangerous with both hands, and the threw multiple punch combinations. He was just superior to Floyd in every way. He would cut the ring off and take away Floyd's footwork, and Floyd would not be able to get away with the clinching that he relies upon to take away a fighter's offense. Robinson at his best breaks Floyd down in late round TKO.

                  ATG boxing trainer Don Turner predicted Robinson would KO Floyd in under 6 rounds.

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                  • #29
                    they all look stiff and outdated he tiptoed alot and looked sloopy throwing punches to the body and head looks bad

                    The era often at times looked lost or hesitant in sugar time

                    So to say a person that outdated is crazy these are idiots everyone of them who picked sugar and don't watch matches floyd fought people who were more advanced and smoother in their movements
                    Last edited by Ascended; 10-02-2022, 12:20 AM.

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