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Old 06-02-2019, 04:34 PM #1
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Lightbulb Are people underrating Ruiz?

Everyone seems to be focusing on Joshua and how embarrased he was, how poor he performed etc. But what about Ruiz?

He impressed me a lot, showed great footwork, fundamentals handspeed and ring IQ.

I've got to be honest I don't follow the heavies as much as other divisions but I remember seeing Ruiz way back and being impressed with his handspeed, he's fast as fk for his size.
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:35 PM #2
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His best wins before last night:
Alexander Dimitrenko
Siarhei Liahkovich
Kevin Johnson

And then the MD loss to Joe Parker.

So no.
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:38 PM #3
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I think I had him beating Parker but he’s not that great. He’s just never beat anyone that’s worth much
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:38 PM #4
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I always thought he was top level . only had 1 bs decision loss. He might be chunky but he has great stamina !
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:39 PM #5
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He has the fastest hands and combinations in the HW division. Got to keep him at distance with a Klitschko Jab jab grab strategy until he wears down.
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:40 PM #6
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His best wins before last night:
Alexander Dimitrenko
Siarhei Liahkovich
Kevin Johnson

And then the MD loss to Joe Parker.

So no.
Now he has the best win in the division.
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:43 PM #7
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Lol he is not 'fast as fk'. He only appears to be faster because his body shape suggests he should be slow. It's not like he has Zab Judah hand speed. Wilder and especially Fury would have no problem with his hand speed.
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:44 PM #8
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I always thought he was top level . only had 1 bs decision loss. He might be chunky but he has great stamina !
The thing is, it wasn’t a bs loss to Parker.

Most people felt a draw was about fair or a round either way. A draw would’ve been fair.

I thought Ruiz was excellent last night, but prior to that, the evidence showed that he was around the level of Parker, there or thereabouts. There was nothing to suggest he was really any better.
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Old 06-02-2019, 04:45 PM #9
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The same people that claim Ruiz is not "that good" also say Ortiz is elite because he beat jennings.
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Now he has the best win in the division.
No, that would be Tyson Fury's win over Wladimir Klitschko in which he won the unified WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, IBO, Ring, and lineal championship. Plus the draw with Wilder, which many thought he won.

Wilder beat Liakhovic just like Ruiz, except Wilder knocked him out in the first while Ruiz took him the distance for a UD.

And Wilder's other wins of note are all better than Kevin Johnson or Dimitrenko:
Luis Ortiz
Bermane Stiverne (twice)
Dominic Breazeale
Malik Scott
Chris Arreola
Gerald Washington
Johan Duahapas
Artur Szpilka
Eric Molina

That's 11 (counting Liakhovic) wins better than Ruiz's second best win, plus the controversial Fury draw.

Ruiz has to back it up. Period.
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