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Old 06-14-2019, 01:29 PM #11
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It also means that gun may one day save your life.

You left that part out.

I wonder why.....


Keep your guns. Keep your fear of a home invasion. Keep your fear of needing it one day in a confrontation. Keep your fear of a government dictatorship and your need to 'form a militia'.

I would rather live gun free and fearless, then to have your mentality. Spare me all of your argumentative pro 2nd amendment points, I've heard them a billion times already as I have quite a few very close friends that love their guns.

They leave me out of gun convos and gun range get togethers because they know there is NO place for them in my life.

Respect that and move the fuk on.
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:34 PM #12
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I disagree with the reports finding that the shootings were reasonable

Six California police officers responding to a call about a man slumped unresponsive in his car fired-off 55 shots at the man in 3.5 seconds, according to an independent use-of-force report ordered by the city of Vallejo.

The report's author, David Blake, concluded that the tactics used by the Vallejo Police Department officers on Willie McCoy, 20, were "reasonable based upon my training and experience as a range instructor as well as through applied human factors psychology."


Blake, a police consultant and retired officer, also wrote in the report released this week that the use of deadly force was "objectively reasonable and necessary" given the circumstances of the situation. Officers said they saw a handgun on McCoy's lap, and believed he was reaching for it when he suddenly woke up.


Willie McCoyLaw Offices of John L. Burris
The death of McCoy, a Bay Area rapper, at a Taco Bell drive-thru on Feb. 9 in Vallejo set off demands by the community for police accountability and an independent investigation into the entire department's training and an alleged pattern of racial profiling.
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:40 PM #13
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Keep your guns. Keep your fear of a home invasion. Keep your fear of needing it one day in a confrontation. Keep your fear of a government dictatorship and your need to 'form a militia'.

I would rather live gun free and fearless, then to have your mentality. Spare me all of your argumentative pro 2nd amendment points, I've heard them a billion times already as I have quite a few very close friends that love their guns.

They leave me out of gun convos and gun range get togethers because they know there is NO place for them in my life.

Respect that and move the fuk on.
But when you hate cops what will you do?
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:42 PM #14
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It also means that gun may one day save your life.

You left that part out.

I wonder why.....
Lol insane. Any on top of that, any one who has a gun in the house and doesn’t take steps to prevent children from accessing them are complete fools.
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:43 PM #15
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55 ÷ 6 = around 9 shots each

Their handguns probably hold 15-19 rounds each assuming they're 9mm

So they each lit off about half a magazine

Sounds right

You can empty a whole mag in a couple of seconds

In fact ppl train to fire as many times as possible in the shortest amount of time
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:45 PM #16
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But when you hate cops what will you do?

Ha! Up yours biiitch. You think you have my gun hating self figured out.

I admire the hell out of cops. I hate cop bashing and all that fuk the police bull****. It's nonsense.

I'm sure being a cop is incredibly hard and I recognize that all the time. When I get pulled over (which is often given my fanfare for sports cars) I show them respect.

They're the ones that are suppose to be armed, so I'm counting on them to show up. I'm counting on them to risk their lives to deal with extreme issues like when a civilian has a gun and is out of control.

So no, I don't hate cops...but nice try.
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Keep your guns. Keep your fear of a home invasion. Keep your fear of needing it one day in a confrontation. Keep your fear of a government dictatorship and your need to 'form a militia'.

I would rather live gun free and fearless, then to have your mentality. Spare me all of your argumentative pro 2nd amendment points, I've heard them a billion times already as I have quite a few very close friends that love their guns.

They leave me out of gun convos and gun range get togethers because they know there is NO place for them in my life.

Respect that and move the fuk on.
I have no fears of those things, as I am prepared for them if they happen.

As for being safe, you tell me where we see more crime in America; the cities with strict gun control or the cities with lax gun control.....


As to respect, I respect your right to live unarmed. But in return you need to respect my right to be armed.

That sound good?
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Old 06-14-2019, 01:50 PM #18
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Lol insane. Any on top of that, any one who has a gun in the house and doesn’t take steps to prevent children from accessing them are complete fools.
Exactly.

I grew up in a house full of guns. So did many of my friends and family.

We somehow survived.
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I remember our parents teaching us about gun safely. It's an amazing concept, parents teaching their kids important life lessons.
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I have no fears of those things, as I am prepared for them if they happen.

As for being safe, you tell me where we see more crime in America; the cities with strict gun control or the cities with lax gun control.....


As to respect, I respect your right to live unarmed. But in return you need to respect my right to be armed.

That sound good?

I respect your right to be armed at home or at a gun range. I'm not ok with you and your ilk forcing 'right to carry' in California because you want to go to Walmart carrying your guns around because 'just in case'.

Because now you're encroaching on my right to peace via flooding the streets with even more guns than there already are.

I'll even let off the gas for people in rural areas where police might take a bit longer to arrive. Farmers, rural community citizens can have guns at home, no problem.

As for cities, there is no reason to have a gun. Let the police deal with armed citizens.
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I respect your right to be armed at home or at a gun range. I'm not ok with you and your ilk forcing 'right to carry' in California because you want to go to Walmart carrying your guns around because 'just in case'.

Because now you're encroaching on my right to peace via flooding the streets with even more guns than there already are.
Constitutional rights aside, what's your hang up on law abiding American citizens carrying guns openly?

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As for cities, there is no reason to have a gun. Let the police deal with armed citizens.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Again I ask; where do have the worst crime rates? Cities with strict gun laws or cities with lax gun laws....

It's not even close, so it shouldn't be tough to answer this one.
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