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Old 06-12-2019, 11:28 PM #41
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I don't see much of any potential/upside. Regardless of its total GDP numbers (via silicon valley capital), quality of life for the average Californian relative to its inland neighbors has been in steady decline for a while.

When the baby boomers who built its infrastructure and pay for healthcare pass on the drug hobos & illegal aliens will be in charge of their own asylum. Which is why professionals and parents are getting the F out rather than pay a million dollars for a shanty property in a state mathematically destined to reflect the third-world outcomes of its new population.
You don't see potential or upside in the 5th largest economy in the world? Lol.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:37 PM #42
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You don't see potential or upside in the 5th largest economy in the world? Lol.
Corruption?
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I've had high profile companies in California offer $25/hour for the same job that pays $70/hour in Florida. Literally the same exact job, same company.

Yeah, it's not pretty.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:43 PM #44
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It's like, I have a million in savings but I have 10mil in debt but I'm all good because I have a surplus lol. There's no surplus!! They don't get it at all.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:46 PM #45
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Corruption?
It's like a broken record!!!!


They just dont get it. In their defense, they are likely products of our wonderful government run public school system, which long ago quit teaching things like basic Economics.
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This isn't a Trump thread son.

Cali is an earner state for the feds. Try to understand this once and for all.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:56 PM #47
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Don't ask me, just Google middle class leaving California.

That's nice you can afford a Tesla unlike most in CA. Why own vette if you don't drive it?


I'm talking about middle class people. I'm not talking about takers. Those people will be in California until they die.

Btw it's not just one news source saying this. Look it up.

Yeah you live there, I'm there weekly and moved 4 years ago. So I have. Pretty good idea what's going on. I'm still a member of a couple CA. Forums and those people are talking about leaving left and right.
The vette was one of those things I always wanted. Got it. Then dumped an insane amount of money into it. Iím attached to it. Still love it. Iím half way building a 427 for it and will up the blower to an procharger f1 series. 700-800 is the goal.
Dont ask why. The car now is dangerous to drive. Fun though. One of those guy things.


Interestingly I also plan on moving when wife retires in 9 years. Sheís a probation officer and her pension would be taxed by the state if we stay. So weíll move, likely to Puerto Rico, so state doesnít tax it. We also have family there, enjoy being there and the beaches are great.

I know many peace officers that have same plan. Many retired officers went to leave To avoid the state tax on their pensions but many others just canít afford to retire here. Lots have mortgages so that make it difficult and also their own fault.

My attorney buddy is looking to move to Tennessee. But he hates California politics. Heís a hard core republican. The universal health care took him over the top and ins looking to leave. Other wise he loves California. Just doesnít like the political culture here.

Many leave Many come. I donít need to read article about a supposed exodus. Iím stuck in traffic that is working by the day. Thatís all the evidence I need
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Let me try and break it down in simple language.

Steve makes $1.2 million a year. Steve has several homes, which he pays mortgages, and in some cases, equity loans on.

Steve has over a dozen high end exotic cars, all of which he leases.

Steve has millions in credit card debt. Steve has $25k in a savings account.

Each monthly budget results in Steve spending more than he earns, and Steve puts the shortfall on his credit cards.

Adam makes $70k a year. Adam owns his small home and drives an old car he paid off years ago.

Adam has no credit card debt. He also has a $1500 savings account.

Each month after all his bills are paid, Adam has a small amount left over which he adds to his savings account.


Which man do you consider to be in better financial shape?
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:04 AM #49
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Let me try and break it down in simple language.

Steve makes $1.2 million a year. Steve has several homes, which he pays mortgages, and in some cases, equity loans on.

Steve has over a dozen high end exotic cars, all of which he leases.

Steve has millions in credit card debt. Steve has $25k in a savings account.

Each monthly budget results in Steve spending more than he earns, and Steve puts the shortfall on his credit cards.

Adam makes $70k a year. Adam owns his small home and drives an old car he paid off years ago.

Adam has no credit card debt. He also has a $1500 savings account.

Each month after all his bills are paid, Adam has a small amount left over which he adds to his savings account.


Which man do you consider to be in better financial shape?
Knock this BS off please. Cali is a donor state. Where ever the hell you lives takes in more from the feds than Cali does per capita. This is likely true as cali is in the top ten for least amount per capita in that category.
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This isn't a Trump thread son.

Cali is an earner state for the feds. Try to understand this once and for all.
Lol whatever trump isn't making any money while in office. Its not to his benefit to be president.

Yes CA is for sure. Just think about how well it would do without the corruption. That would mean less taxes for you to pay, less fees, less gas taxes etc..

Just look at the train to no where. Look at who the contractor is and who is wife is. It's so right in front of you guys but you just don't care because you live in "California ".
Gas taxes, we swear this time we'll use it for the roads. We swear this time we'll use the new tax for schools.
Such bull**** I got tired of hearing it over and over again.

Its pisses me off because that's where I grew up. I had to make a choice to break the chain and put my money where my mouth was. Its been taken over and these people were lying right to my face time and time again. Makes me pissed off.
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