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Old 06-12-2019, 02:30 PM #11
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I've said for some time the rest of the US needs to wall off California just as much as the US needs to wall off Mexico.

It's a cesspool and while some of us who fled in anticipation of the collapse have taken it as a lesson and embrace the opposition — most fleeing the state are still unrepentant socialists.
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Yes in CA itís all about Location... near the beach some places ago as high as 16 mil.

Iím trying to buy a place in Santa Clarita 35 miles from downtown and itís costing 630k.

The zoning laws do affect the market. I built a bathroom in my grandmothers house and it cost 10k just to get approval to lay the concrete it cost 30k in total with materials and labor and I got a discount.

The housing in CA is messed up due to rich people from all over moving there pricing out the local middle class which forces them to neighboring states. In Portland I was told not to move there.
Santa Clarita is one of the few nice/conservative majority areas left in So Cal. I give it 5 years before the swarm hits, rent goes up even more and there's junkies rolling around in their own piss.
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I've said for some time the rest of the US needs to wall off California just as much as the US needs to wall off Mexico.

It's a cesspool and while some of us who fled in anticipation of the collapse have taken it as a lesson and embrace the opposition ó most fleeing the state are still unrepentant socialists.
California wouldn't mind being walled off from rest of the US either. Don't kid yourself. Tremendous amount of shiiit holes in the rest of the US with no where near the upside and potential of Cali. In other words, good riddance.
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California wouldn't mind being walled off from rest of the US either. Don't kid yourself. Tremendous amount of shiiit holes in the rest of the US with no where near the upside and potential of Cali. In other words, good riddance.
CA? Sure the state might not mind that as long as it doesnt include Mexico. That said the people might have something to say about it. The earners are leaving in big numbers.
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Besides the expenses, there are 2 sides of the coin about living in Cali. All the positive things; nice weather, no winters, night life, entertainment, high paying jobs, women, diversity, the ocean, (i LOVE the ocean), beaches...etc.

Then there are the negatives, traffic (gridlock really sucks), too many people, if you are like to party, you have to be careful...way too easy to get in trouble, so much to do. Violence, pollution-smog, gangs, fires, whacked out people roaming the streets...etc.

It really is a world in it's own. No place like it. Many people moving in and out every day.
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CA? Sure the state might not mind that as long as it doesnt include Mexico. That said the people might have something to say about it. The earners are leaving in big numbers.
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Lol. They can't leave soon enough IMO. Do you really think the rest of the US is gonna turn it's back on the 5th largest economy in the world? Come on bro. We are a power house.
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Yes but why?

Is it inherrent that the cost must be higher when closer to the ocean?

Houston has no zoning laws and is very lenient on laws when it comes to construction and housing and has a very low housing cost overall. Do the number of laws not effect the market?
closer to the ocean makes it more desirable right? Water is too cold for me in the ocean. Its one of my two gripes about California.

in case you ask, over population is the other.
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CA? Sure the state might not mind that as long as it doesnt include Mexico. That said the people might have something to say about it. The earners are leaving in big numbers.
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Grubers dont grasp basic Economic concepts.

Concepts like spending less than you take in.

The keep reapeating "6th largest economy" like the NPCs they are, not realizing it's not so much about what you make, it's more about what you spend.

Take Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Terrell Owen's, etc.

While they made massive amounts of income, well over $100 million, they ended up bankrupt.

Their massive incomes didnt mean a hill of beans because they spent it all, plus more.

Just like California is doing now. Yes, they have a huge economy. But no matter how much they take in, they spend more.

It isnt sustainable.

Always remember; their own guy Gruber didn't call them "stupid" for nothing.
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closer to the ocean makes it more desirable right? Water is too cold for me in the ocean. Its one of my two gripes about California.

in case you ask, over population is the other.

Yeah, the cold water really turned me off. When i moved out there years ago, i thought the water would be warmer than east coast.
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Yes in CA itís all about Location... near the beach some places ago as high as 16 mil.

Iím trying to buy a place in Santa Clarita 35 miles from downtown and itís costing 630k.

The zoning laws do affect the market. I built a bathroom in my grandmothers house and it cost 10k just to get approval to lay the concrete it cost 30k in total with materials and labor and I got a discount.

The housing in CA is messed up due to rich people from all over moving there pricing out the local middle class which forces them to neighboring states. In Portland I was told not to move there.
Good lord, man. That's ridiculous.
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