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Old 06-05-2019, 10:43 AM #11
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Why do you think that?

Joseph Parker fought both AJ and AR, and prior to the fight Parker said during an interview that Ruiz was the hardest puncher that he had faced to date. Thus, he considered Ruiz a stronger puncher than Joshua and Whyte, for example. What do you make of that? That neither Joshua nor Whyte are top 10 heavyweight punchers? Or, do you think that Parker is wrong?

You could clearly see that Ruiz had good punching power. Also his jabs to the body hurt Joshua badly, and set up his combinations to the head.
Wilder is one of the hardest punchers in the history of the division and I was alive to see foreman, shavers, Lyle, Cooney, Morrison, Tua, tyson, Lewis, etc etc fight. Ortiz hits significant fly harder than Ruiz, and wilder hits harder than any 3 heavyweights combined. If Ruiz, wladimir, povetkin, Whyte, can hit him hurt him and it drop him then itís clear heís going to be on the receiving end of a brutal knockout against wilder especially. Militant British fans need to just put their nationalism away and accept the fact that Joshua isnít as good as you were sold he is nor as good as the best heavyweight in the division
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:44 AM #12
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He looked like he was all there till he got clipped. Just didn't recover from this one like he did with Klits.
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:45 AM #13
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I think Parker is blowing smoke. Myths are starting to get born in the aftermath of the fight due to the shock value. The facts speak for themselves in that Ruiz's KO percent (65%) is lower than Parkers (70%).

Sure Ruiz hits hard, he's a heavyweight, but its a bit like heralding Corrie Sanders power after he decked the early version of Wlad (Sanders KO percent 67).

AJ just fought an awful fight (as did Wlad vs Sanders) and paid the price. He'll pay the same price in the rematch if he fights the same.
Back when I actually had social media for a short while I mentioned in a boxing group that Corrie Sanders wasnít as hard a puncher as he was made to look like against wlad. Wlad never had a good chin, and Sanders was simply a big strong heavyweight who wlad couldnít bully with his height and size...that ko percentage spoke volumes
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:00 AM #14
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and you could argue GGG was not mentally prepared for the second Canelo fight, after all he was backed up and beaten up by a smaller, career JR middleweight.

GGG needs to stay in his lane, he has been on a steady decline for 2 years now, he needs to make sure HE is prepared to fight competition.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:18 AM #15
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and you could argue GGG was not mentally prepared for the second Canelo fight, after all he was backed up and beaten up by a smaller, career JR middleweight.

GGG needs to stay in his lane, he has been on a steady decline for 2 years now, he needs to make sure HE is prepared to fight competition.
Canelo certainly was a middleweight by then. He was also a much younger man, and a superstar of the sport. Golovkin did well to even make it a fight. Most middles are totally finished by their mid 30s.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:50 AM #16
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GGG wasn't mentally ready for Ward at 168 either :P
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:56 AM #17
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I think Parker is blowing smoke. Myths are starting to get born in the aftermath of the fight due to the shock value. The facts speak for themselves in that Ruiz's KO percent (65%) is lower than Parkers (70%).

Sure Ruiz hits hard, he's a heavyweight, but its a bit like heralding Corrie Sanders power after he decked the early version of Wlad (Sanders KO percent 67).

AJ just fought an awful fight (as did Wlad vs Sanders) and paid the price. He'll pay the same price in the rematch if he fights the same.
Other stu.pid comment.

Joshua tried to fight as always, Ruiz is shorter than him, and knows how to counter punches, and he has more speed than any rival that Anthony faced before.

That was the reason why he lost, he trainer said to him "keep boxing" but he could not
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:59 AM #18
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Key difference - Joshua was clearly beaten and KOd, and I agree he showed great sportsmanship and humility. That was nice to see.

GGG was pretty clearly the better man against Canelo in both fights but 3 people sitting at ringside in Vegas always end up favoring Canelo.

What do you want a guy to say after a shady decision/scorecards? Only thing they should really say if they stay in the ring is 'Thanks to the fans, congrats to my opponent, I will answer any questions in the post fight presser' etc.

The place to answer questions if you are on the losing end of a decision, especially if you disagree with the verdict, is in the post fight presser. Give the winner his moment and head to the locker room to decompress. No issue with a guy doing that, as long as he shows up for the press conference, which GGG did.

And he was gracious enough and didn't really make excuses for the poor decision from the judges. He knew in a way that he was selling his 0 to Canelo so he knew deep down he had to really destroy Canelo to get the win on the cards.

But yeah when you know you really won the fight I can understand a guy not wanting to answer Max's silly questions in the ring.

Canelo was clearly the better man in the rematch
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Old 06-05-2019, 12:16 PM #19
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Canelo was clearly the better man in the rematch
I humbly disagree
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Old 06-05-2019, 12:58 PM #20
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Is anyone else sick of people' random theories about why Joshua lost??

Please something else happen in boxing so we can talk about that instead.

Tom Schwarz the new lineal champion...
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