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Old 05-20-2019, 06:17 PM #8041
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What a let down. The great battle with the white walkers (which should have been the highlight of the series) had no real surprises. Last ep was equally predictable and safe. I feel like the last couple seasons were weaker but the ending was pretty much devoid of thrills.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:30 PM #8042
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Come on now who actually liked that bs ending ?

How could they do that to Jon ? How is the midget winner at the end ? They gave it to a criple? The Lord's actually want to give away their birth rights ? Wtf ? The unsullied just basically didn't care about the queen ?

Are we serious ? Nobody in the north went to war for jon ? This is bs.
What ending would you have liked? Iíd like to hear your thought.

The show started with the Starks losing and now they have Starks on the throne, on the North, beyond the wall, and beyond Westeros. Iím fined with that.

Jon is the ultimate hero. He only wants to do whatís best even if it means sacrificing his own happiness.

Bran is a logical choice because you canít have John be the king or else the Unsullied and Dothraki would have started another war. Bran is the only one with no beef with anyone. Yes boring choice but sometimes boring is the road to peace.
Lord never gave up their birth rights. Another lord will be named as the next king. Itís just you canít inherit the throne that rules the 6 kingdom.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:30 PM #8043
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Come on now who actually liked that bs ending ?

How could they do that to Jon ? How is the midget winner at the end ? They gave it to a criple? The Lord's actually want to give away their birth rights ? Wtf ? The unsullied just basically didn't care about the queen ?

Are we serious ? Nobody in the north went to war for jon ? This is bs.
That's my problem, aside from it being a safe, pu$$y-ass cop-out, is that all these things they built up were not resolved, most notably, John. He came so far, even back from death, to lead the armies and then suddenly act like a *****, but then got his balls back, but then let's pretend that birthright thing never existed and send him away and he puts up no fight about it.... WHAT??

I'm very into writing and the nature of story telling, and the conclusion was so flaccid. In the media, apologists are saying, "They couldn't make everyone happy." Since when has Games, or HBO been a fking Disney series? The one thing I counted on was poetic resolution and they just gave up on attempting anything clever.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:31 PM #8044
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In the end Tyrion won the Game of Thrones.

All his enemies are dead, he instructed Jaime to lead Cersei to the basement where both of them met their doom thus giving Tyrion full inheritance rights and titles to Casterly Rock.

Sends Jon Snow to the wall so that Jon Snows birthright doesn't threaten Tyrions Manchurian candidate Bran, who is easily played by Tyrion into making him hand, and thus essentially ruling the "six" kingdoms. All the while still technically being married to the Queen in the North Sansa Stark.

Tyrion is GOT winner.
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:38 PM #8045
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That's my problem, aside from it being a safe, pu$$y-ass cop-out, is that all these things they built up were not resolved, most notably, John. He came so far, even back from death, to lead the armies and then suddenly act like a *****, but then got his balls back, but then let's pretend that birthright thing never existed and send him away and he puts up no fight about it.... WHAT??

I'm very into writing and the nature of story telling, and the conclusion was so flaccid. In the media, apologists are saying, "They couldn't make everyone happy." Since when has Games, or HBO been a fking Disney series? The one thing I counted on was poetic resolution and they just gave up on attempting anything clever.

You donít think it would have been out of character for Jon to want to rule when he had no desire to throughout the series? Heís always been a reluctant leader and when he does accept the leadership role itís always because itís the right thing. Heís Ned Starkís ďsonĒ. He knows if he takes the throne there wonít be peace.

At least with Dannyís heel turn thereís always been hint. She was never a good negotiator and always rely on fear, fire, and blood to get what she wants. Tyrionís speech was spot on when he talked about Dannyís thirst for blood but we turn a blind eye because she killed the bad guys

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What ending would you have liked? I’d like to hear your thought.

The show started with the Starks losing and now they have Starks on the throne, on the North, beyond the wall, and beyond Westeros. I’m fined with that.

Jon is the ultimate hero. He only wants to do what’s best even if it means sacrificing his own happiness.

Bran is a logical choice because you can’t have John be the king or else the Unsullied and Dothraki would have started another war. Bran is the only one with no beef with anyone. Yes boring choice but sometimes boring is the road to peace.
Lord never gave up their birth rights. Another lord will be named as the next king. It’s just you can’t inherit the throne that rules the 6 kingdom.

The problem with all you wrote is that is not how any of the characters were built up. And I don't wanna hear well this is GOT so it's unpredictable, baloney! You can be unpredictable by still tying loose ends and making sense!

The Prince that was promised, Azora Hai, and Maggie the frogs prophecy to Cersei about Valonchar were all meaningless and pointless.

Also Jon Snow isn't a hero, he was portrayed as a coward who didn't do what he had to in order to save thousands of lives until it was too late. And afterward he didn't receive a heros praise but was outcastes and forced to renounce all his claims to the throne. That's not a hero, that's a tragic figure.

Also what's the point of Tyrions speech to have elected kings when Sansa basically said yeah you go head and have fun with that but will break away and continue our tradition of birthright lineage, starting with me, basically undermining everything Tyrion said and the lords agreed on, but we are supposed to overlook that? Hell if I am one of the other Lords how long before I say I'm breaking away from the realm also and naming myself king of my region?

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this entire final season was a rushed mess joke. hahahahahaha. dany stumbles awkwardly into becoming an evil psycho dictator villain and then dies almost immediately after. huh???? hahahaha. then jump cut to bran becoming king. seriously????? just like that. no debate. tyrion just says a short speech and everyone is 10000% convinced. hahahahahahaha. incredible. the most boring character of the series and especially this season becomes king. woooooow. and jon gets exiled beyond the wall or night watch or whatever even though sansa can pardon him easily (and barely anyone would care) since unsullied and dothraki have all sailed away. season 8 was pure comedy.
We have 7 seasons of war, backstabbing, murder, torture, schemes, grief, pride, oathbreaking, infanticide, entire families being wiped out, because everyone wants the throne and then at the end they just give the throne to a cripple...

Are you ****ing serious?

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The problem with all you wrote is that is not how any of the characters were built up. And I don't wanna hear well this is GOT so it's unpredictable, baloney! You can be unpredictable by still tying loose ends and making sense!

The Prince that was promised, Azora Hai, and Maggie the frogs to Cersei about Valonchar were all meaningless and pointless.

Also what's the point of Tyrions speech to have elected kings when Sansa basically said yeah you go head and have fun with that but will break away and continue our tradition of birthright lineage, starting with me, basically undermining everything Tyrion said and the lords agreed on, but we are supposed to overlook that? Hell if I am one of the other Lords how long before I say I'm breaking away from the realm also and naming myself king of my region?
The Valonchar was never mentioned on the show only in the books IIRC. The Astor Ahai was too vague. Lead the people against Darkness IIRC. Wasnít really specific about actually killing the NK or is it even the NK? Is the darkness the NK or is it Danny because KIngs Lansing looks pretty dark after Danny burned it.

Yes agreed with the council. That was too rushed. She could have made arguments about the men they lost protecting the realm etc..or how about the North has always been on their own and left out anyway as mentioned on the show. Yup rushed indeed.
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We have 7 seasons of war, backstabbing, murder, torture, schemes, grief, pride, oathbreaking, infanticide, entire families being wiped out, because everyone wants the throne and then at the end they just give the throne to a cripple...

Are you ****ing serious?
Everybody is dead lol. All the great house are gone or replaced by an ally and look who was in the council. A bunch of Starks ally with an exception of Yara.
Thatís how you win the Game of Thrones. Let all the other threats kill each other and be left out with only the Betas that none of them want the throne. Hahaha
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You donít think it would have been out of character for Jon to want to rule when he had no desire to throughout the series? Heís always been a reluctant leader and when he does accept the leadership role itís always because itís the right thing. Heís Ned Starkís ďsonĒ. He knows if he takes the throne there wonít be peace.

At least with Dannyís heel turn thereís always been hint. She was never a good negotiator and always rely on fear, fire, and blood to get what she wants. Tyrionís speech was spot on when he talked about Dannyís thirst for blood but we turn a blind eye because she killed the bad guys
The problem was the build that went nowhere. He was reluctant at first but learned how to lead men and they embraced him as their leader. When he went soft, it was seemingly out of nowhere and done to suit their sloppy storywring in the last season. He walked away looking like a p^ssy rather than a guy who went through all he did. It wasn't believable. And, his true lineage was to be the ruler but they pretended like that never happened. The last season made no sense when you look at the development of the character, It was a cop-out.

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We have 7 seasons of war, backstabbing, murder, torture, schemes, grief, pride, oathbreaking, entire families being wiped out, because everyone wants the throne and then at the end they just give the throne to a cripple...

Are you ****ing serious?
I actually thought Brandon should be King, I said to myself there's no way the story would end up like that because he would not have been accepted as king. Well, that didn't stop HBO from doing it anyway.
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Ironically, they made the joke about democracy and the viewer is supposed to laugh because of course that world was not ready for democracy. But, then they serve us up this idea that this boy, who was not groomed for leadership, who has never had an opinion about anything, who is not well known, and can't use his legs is going to be accepted by all the armies and nations....

HBO did to Thrones what Disney did to Star Wars. Predictable, safe, and smiles for everyone.
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