Comments Thread For: Hearn Sounds Off on Luis Ortiz and His Team Over Joshua Talks

[davefromvancouv]

If you are fighting for 100k - 300K and somebody offers you $2million, you would be very ill-advised if you turned it down because your opponent is getting $40million, whether he fights you or not.

That really would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Participating in any venture with someone where you do the same work but get paid 5% of what that person is making would be ill-advised, regardless of whether it's 10 times what you've previously made. You would be selling yourself short, a sucker, enriching someone else at your own expense. This is the very definition of being a work boy. If there's $42 million in the pot, you should get a fair percentage. At least 25%, or $10.5 million...

[Jax teller]

Participating in any venture with someone where you do the same work but get paid 5% of what that person is making would be ill-advised, regardless of whether it's 10 times what you've previously made. You would be selling yourself short, a sucker, enriching someone else at your own expense. This is the very definition of being a work boy. If there's $42 million in the pot, you should get a fair percentage. At least 25%, or $10.5 million...

Ortiz was unbeaten and only got 20% against Wilder a champ with one belt and a smaller draw. Why do you think AJ a 3 belt champ should give him a larger cut when he has an L on his record as well?

Also although it's the same work on the night there is a lot of extra work AJ has put in building his brand to make the fight money it is which Ortiz never has done for whatever reason. Why should Ortiz expect to profit so much of AJ's hard work and extra risks taken to build his resume and profile?

[Smash]

u mean i have to fight joshua, hold on a sec, let me check my diary, urm, sorry busy that week ^^

[j.razor]

Premier Boxing Cowards. Haymon holding up all the big fights. Violating the Ali act in the process. We have people actually defending this. They aren't boxing fans.

PBC are the only ones making fights for the last couple years. hearn was involved in Aj/klitschko & Nelo/Jacobs & that's where it stops....LMMFAO! All the other promoters are made that Al is making boxers more money (instead of the promoters putting their greedy little hands in the pot which is where the hate is stemming from on to the fake fans..) & showing them life after boxing.

[j.razor]

Been saying for years guys are trying to take aj for a ride. I always knew it was true but it was confirmed when some of you geniuses were trying to tell me 5mil for Ortiz was a low ball.

When asked how it could be a lowball when he accepted 500k for wilder all sorts of bull**** reasons were flying about. My personal favourite was that his stock had greatly risen which is hilarious considering he hasn’t headlined his own event or earned more than the 500k so how could his stock have risen?

This goes back to something I’ve said a long time ago. Anthony Joshua is not a charitable foundation. Just because he’s getting paid 25-30 million that doesn’t mean you can try ask for 10 mil instead of your usual 500k. How you guys can’t see that’s an absolute pisstake I will never know.

Cuz Aj was going to make less with Miller but when King Kong gets put on paper more people will come to see which equals more money in which King Kong wants. hearn should of offered him 8 million as a final offer.

[davefromvancouv]

Ortiz was unbeaten and only got 20% against Wilder a champ with one belt and a smaller draw. Why do you think AJ a 3 belt champ should give him a larger cut when he has an L on his record as well?

Also although it's the same work on the night there is a lot of extra work AJ has put in building his brand to make the fight money it is which Ortiz never has done for whatever reason. Why should Ortiz expect to profit so much of AJ's hard work and extra risks taken to build his resume and profile?

I'm not talking about Ortiz. He already admitted his promoter made a mistake rejecting the Joshua fight. But in general, whether it's 20%, 25% or more, a fighter should always work with percentages so that they get a fair share of the generated revenue. Or in the case of a DAZN fight, a fair percentage for participating in a fight with Joshua. If Joshua is getting $30, they should get at least 25% of what Joshua is getting, or $7.5 million.

[j.razor]

$6M ignored, $7M derided as a "lowball".

And Finkel states on TBV that Joshua-Wilder won't happen this year, maybe 2020.

There can't be anyone left in doubt now? PBC are ducking fights to protect their fighters and keep things in house. Fury has wedged himself onto ESPN and will fight twice this year against no marks.

Team Joshua has continually made offers to all of the top fighters. Real credible offers.

No more doubt.

Cut it out, PBC are the only ones making fights & Aj ducked 50 million.

[DaNeutral.]

Participating in any venture with someone where you do the same work but get paid 5% of what that person is making would be ill-advised, regardless of whether it's 10 times what you've previously made. You would be selling yourself short, a sucker, enriching someone else at your own expense. This is the very definition of being a work boy. If there's $42 million in the pot, you should get a fair percentage. At least 25%, or $10.5 million...

LOL whats all this bollocks? If you want to talk about this as a regular job then we will say Anthony Joshua has had a number of promotions that Ortiz hasnt had yet in the form of a number of world titles and a massive financial backing which Ortiz does not bring any of either. And with those promotions comes an increase in salary.

A side B side has worked perfectly well all over the world for many many years in this sport and everybody has understood what makes an A side, belts or value, Joshua towers over Ortiz on both fronts. Why is it NOW that you want us to pretend A side B side is to be forgotten and we will talk pots and regular work?

But then Ortiz was offered 7 million Dollars, 14x his highest payday and they turned it down. Why are you still trying to talk about money and lowballs and what Ortiz was worth? EVEN ORTIZ and his entire training team, advisors and management have all come out in the last few days and said its a great offer. Why are you feeling like LITERALLY EVERYBODY IS WRONG and you are right?

[DaNeutral.]

Cut it out, PBC are the only ones making fights & Aj ducked 50 million.

What fights are the PBC making? Can you name one thats better than Canelo v Jacobs?

[davefromvancouv]

7.5M is not a 25% deal if AJ makes 30M. But what did I expect from boxing community, people who know math at least of 1st grade? NAAAAH.

This isn't a PPV fight. This is a streaming service. So the percentage is based on what your opponent is making....