The Mayweather handpicking myth is a lie

[hugh grant]

This thread is all wrong.wrong.But
He fought Hatton when he struggled at 147. He only fought Nell when nelo couldn't ko ssm. He fought Dlh after losing to bh not long before.
And a lot of opponents just aren't that good in first place or past prime. And he never fought outside country.
You can pick apart any record for any ATG be it pacs,srl, durans. But Floyd's resume falls short after alls been said and done.
The fact floyd is famous for trying to get things in his favour of not giving advantagescaway if at all possible like his life depended on it or rather his zero makes it self explanatory he handpicked or cherry picked

[Real King Kong]

i think mayweather has all the tools but one thing i can point is his quick thinking, speed and defensive abilities. Manages to lure opponents inside his way like he did against others.

first post ever bumps a year old mayweather thread...just use your main account ffs.

[mcdonalds]

This thread is all wrong.wrong.But

HA!! Here we go...

He fought Hatton when he struggled at 147.

He fought hatton when he was in the top 10 P4P and a after he became 147 WBA champion

He only fought Nell when nelo couldn't ko ssm.

He fought canelo after the biggest win of his career against trout, he was WBC/WBA champion, Top 10 P4P, and the top junior middlewight

He fought Dlh after losing to bh not long before.

He fought DLH when DLH became the 154 WBC champion. He moved up in weight for that fight too

You can pick apart any record for any ATG be it pacs,srl, durans. But Floyd's resume falls short after alls been said and done.

It's actually easier to pick apart pac's resume since he fought a lot of guys soon after losses, when they weren't champions, catchweights, etc.

LOL

[hugh grant]

HA!! Here we go...

He fought hatton when he was in the top 10 P4P and a after he became 147 WBA champion

But Hatton struggled at 147. Floyd should have fought at 140


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He fought canelo after the biggest win of his career against trout, he was WBC/WBA champion, Top 10 P4P, and the top junior middlewight
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Nah nelo didn't deserve top 10 and it was very nelo green. Why don't Floyd fight nelo now? Cos Floyd handpicks

He fought DLH when DLH became the 154 WBC champion. He moved up in weight for that fight too

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Only time Floyd's really conceded advantage. But DLH was past prime and fighting bh leftovers.

It's actually easier to pick apart pac's resume since he fought a lot of guys soon after losses, when they weren't champions, catchweights, etc.

LOL

PAC beat all common opponents more dominantly and 8:division titilist. Floyd should have cherry picked sergioMartinez at 160 and try beat the weakest 168lb fighter he'd nearly equal pac.pac beat great fighters more times. Got 2 wins over jmm, whilst Floyd hasn't got a legit win over jmm. PAC beat Barrera X2, Bradley X2, Morales X2.
Just did everything on grander scale

[dibzvincent143]

Dispelling the myth that Mayweather fought his opponents at the wrong time. The short sightedness of fans is off the charts. One fan says it and All the boxing analyst run with it.

Genaro hernandez. Only lost to delahoya in the mid 90s before Floyd was factor

Angel Manfreddy. Was a feared boxer at the time and hadn't lost in years before Floyd. Lasted two or 3 rounds

Diego corralles. Undefeated and Floyd was considered the underdog.

Castillo went on to beat corralles and Joel Casamayor afterwards.

Chop chop. This was his first fight at jr welter and he went toe to toe with him Chop chop had two losses at the time and one was to Judah. This is notable since in this fight Larry Merchant and the HBO cast said Gatti and sharmba Mitchell would beat Floyd and Floyd would not fight him. 2004(watch it on YouTube to hear, it was a good fight anyway)

Gatti 2005. Only took one fight before this. But By the time this fight started regardless of what was said and forgotten two fights earlier- Floyds now the favorite. Gatti was still on his win streak since Mickey Ward2003. What changed ?

Sharmba. 2005 Coming of lost to Tzu but still everybody said Floyd Couldn't beat him 3 fights earlier and e had already lost to Tzu back in 2003

Judah was coming off loss to Carlos baldomir. This was floyds first fight at welter. Hardly cherry picking when moving up in weight

Baldomir. Had just beaten Judah and Gatti. Had no recent losses. Only the losses he already had prior to beating Judah

Delahoya. Was partially inactive before Mayweather other than a tuneup. Had been fighting at super welter and middle in his fights before being inactive

Ricky Hatton. Was undefeated and had beat the feared kosta tzu

Shane mosely had just beat the breaks of margarito one fight prior to Mayweather.

Cottos only losses were PAC and margarito at the time

Guerrero only had one loss and back then people on this forum thought he was the second coming. Had no recent losses.

Victor Ortiz had beat berto and Nate cambell prior to the fight

Canelo. Was undefeated. Had beaten cintron and mosely

*** never fought TZU who was done after Hatton in 2005. Two years after Floyd entered the jr Welters
*** never fought margarito at 147 who was proven to be a cheater later
*** never fought Vernon Forrest, Quintana, Paul Williams
*** mosely, Trinidad, and Vargas were in the welterweights when Floyd fought corralles at featherweight/lightweight

The only the knock on Floyd is that he didn't fight PAC at the time when PAC destroyed Cotto. But in 2009 Pac was afraid of needles. He faced most of his biggest opponents within 2 fights of people calling them out for him. The real issue is that Floyd had a 13 year prime while most fighters primes only last 5 years.

People just be rattling off names. Here's a realistic list of top guys in his weight classes -- you can go head and pick out who would have beat Floyd. Or how his resume would of been so much stronger. Lol

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Super featherweight -2001

Acelino Freitas, Joel Casamayor, Robert Garcia, Steve Forbes, Jong Kwon Baek, Takanori Hatakeyama, Lavka Sim and Jorge Barrios.

Lightweight 2002-2003

Paul Spadafora, Leonard Dorin, Stevie Johnston, Artur Grigorian, Raul Balbi, Juan Lazcano and Javier Jauregui

Light Welterweight 2004-2005

Kostya Tszyu, Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton, Vivian Harris, Carlos Maussa, and Junior Witter

Welterweight 2006

Antonio Margarito, Kermit Cintron and Luis Collazo

Light Middleweight 2007

Cory Spinks, Vernon Forrest, Joachim Alcine, Serhiy Dzinziruk

Welterweight 2007
Paul Williams
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He has engineered a great resume. It definitely earned him a shot at being the GOAT (he is TBE in my opinion).
But the critics will always carry certain and valid points to be able to attack it as well, and Floyd shouldn’t complain with them as they are his own fault.
You mentioned 2-3 years earlier they were favorites to beat Floyd, oh well in boxing a lot can happen in 2-3 years. One can be a shot fighter in six months.

Aside from his resume at 130-135, he didn’t fight anyone else at their absolute primes.
Or maybe just Hatton. And hmm guerrero?
He didn’t fight them when fans exactly wanted him to.
He always get us to settle with good enough fights. Hoping the other one would be next.

Whether it’s by choice or not, it still deserves to be put in a microscope when weighing his resume. And the best win we can find is a prime Corrales. With absolutely no excuses.

I get the idea that he can beat them during their primes, but let’s not give him credit like did just because would have had. It didn’t happen.
He beat a cotto who already suffered two career ending beatings, and was considered a damaged goods at that time, even then he needed some work. That’s because he wouldn’t want to work with arum? But 3 yrs later he was okay with it when he saw pac could no longer KO the algieries of the world?

He beat an inactive oscar coming a year layoff and just had one win over 3 years.

Mosley was already considered past his best even before the cotto fight. He was like 5-5 in his last 10 fights.

Beat marquez who climbed two divisions to fight him, and got cheated on the scales.

I can go on and on. And the holes in his resume are legit even though there are bunch of great names in it.

Only the Corrales and Castillo II wins really stand out. With having zero issues and excuses.

Had any of these fights happened at the right time he’d be the SOLID GOAT in my opinion:
Had he fought Pac in 2009.
Had he fought Cotto in 2008.
Had he fought Oscar in 2003-2004.
Had he fought Canelo at full 154lbs.

Not saying he is downright at fault on those fights not happening, but if they did happen he would have had a better win, a signature win so much better than his win over prime Corrales.

Sugar ray had duran, hearns, haggler and benitez for quick comparison

[Vlad_]

first post ever bumps a year old mayweather thread...just use your main account ffs.

Seriously. I came in just to see who decided to bump this thread. Turned out to be some clown on his first post.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Isn't every myth a lie?

[Real King Kong]

Seriously. I came in just to see who decided to bump this thread. Turned out to be some clown on his first post.

Yea, I went straight to the last page once I saw the op date. Shameless I tell ya...