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Old 01-13-2019, 11:44 AM #41
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Fury was the first to beat klitschko. Fury was then the first to beat Wilder. He is #1 to anyone that really knows whatís going on.
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:54 AM #42
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I don't think fury is number 1. Day after Klitschko perhaps but not now. However, some do. And that is great becaue it makes sure the fight gets done. AJ v Miller in April and AJ v Fury / Wilder x 2 after. AJ will let the WBO go to Whyte who will do Jennings and then re-unify in 2020 after Pulev!
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:56 AM #43
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Welll Iím not going to lie and say Iíve been proud of some of AJ antics in regards to this whole Wilder ordeal. He was not prepared to fight in America whether the money was real or not is irrelevant the fact he said I donít want my Fans to travel was nonsense. Yes he turned down 50 million but he would make 40 million fighting at home anyway. Itís a duck For many people but I an understand why he wanted the advantage of getting the fight at home. Nevertheless as an AJ fan I will take the L.

Now where Team AJ has messed up is that. Hearn has talked non stop to try and justify their stance which has made Joshua look even more meek

Team wilder have played the media fantastically because all they have done is accepted to fight on social media. No terms were ironed out. Similar to josh wanting 50 million and he will fight . Both never materialised but who has egg on their face? Team Wilder had no intention of accepting that blasphemous offer and if they did they should be sacked. They played it out fantastically

The Hearnís work for Joshua he has to dictate what he wants from them . I feel he wants Wilder, whether he did before is debatable but he does now and all Wilder has to do is sign and this conspiracy 7 year plan is out of the window
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:01 PM #44
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Fury was the first to beat klitschko. Fury was then the first to beat Wilder. He is #1 to anyone that really knows whatís going on.
Until they fight no one truly knows not even the guys themselves.We can say what we think but it's not for sure. What if Wilder knocks T. out in the rematch as he very nearly did ? If it was that easy to predict and know for sure we'd never go to another fight again . We could just stay on this forum for ever more .No more PPV !

Imagine we would never have seen Leonard,Hearns,Duran & Hagler ....Hearns ko'd Duran who beat Leonard who beat Hearns etc.

By the way I 'think' you are right but this is why this situation is so frustrating .....I'm not sure.....these businessman promoters need to be pulled to task ...Wilder v Joshua should have already taken place !
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:05 PM #45
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Nobody can truly say who's no. 1 yet and it seems with the Joshua and Hearns seven year business plan it will be a long time if ever.
Anthony Joshua conclusively beats his opponents, has the most world championship belts and actually defends his titles. Tyson Fury has zero belts, and has never made a world champion defense, and lets face it? He did not beat Wladimir Kiltschko or Deontay Wilder conclusively. It is a myth/psychological campaign that he some how? Systematically broke down and demoralized Wladimir Kiltschko! 'Time and time again we see certain boxing fans online and certain sections of the media, who just keep drumming this form of operate conditioning into our minds that? His performance up against Waldimir Kiltschko was some sort of Floyd Mayweather type master class! 'But in reality it was a good performance, but not some sort of masterclass'.....but fairplay to him, as he got the job done!

Wladimir Kiltscko was not beaten up or deterred at any point in their fight 'Tyson Fury won the fight, but his performance from a technical perspective was overrated in my opinion'.

Tyson Fury is not the number 1 heavyweight, on achievements or Curriculum vitae! Anthony Joshua is the number 1 heavyweight when you value world championship belts and performances.

I would probably have Tyson Fury at number 2 right about now, and I am well aware that his comeback is still going through a process.

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Old 01-13-2019, 02:08 PM #46
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Fury is the top heavyweight in the world, Wilder 2, Ortiz 3, Baby Miller 4
and you 5th right? You low life hating scum!
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:12 PM #47
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AJ is ONE of the top HWs but not thee top guy. You can't be the #1 by avoiding the biggest challenges or the other 2 who are also considered for that spot. Or if were gonna rate them resume-wise then the the winner of the rematch will have a big enough win to slide into that spot securely..without actually having to face AJ?? Because technically AJ has yet to face an opponent ranked so high.

It does seem like AJ fanboys don't want either fight though. If only AJ had Canelos heart
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:21 PM #48
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What makes Fury number 1?
You are as good as your last fight. He beat wilder.
There's nothing g wrong with Josh conceding fury no1. Is Josh concerned he won't make as much.money whilst fury is seen as no1?
If that's the case Josh better fight fury as soon as possible.
Then he can beat fury like we know he could. But fury still no1

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Old 01-13-2019, 03:35 PM #49
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He could have fought Joshua, instead of Wilder, could not have left home, made money twelve times as much, yet he'd rather just yap and yap...
AJ won't fight him.

It's clear fury will fight anyone anywhere, he's proven this much.

AJ is the complete opposite, it's proven hell only fight bums in his backyard, with everything rigged in his favor.
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Anthony Joshua conclusively beats his opponents, has the most world championship belts and actually defends his titles. Tyson Fury has zero belts, and has never made a world champion defense, and lets face it? He did not beat Wladimir Kiltschko or Deontay Wilder conclusively. It is a myth/psychological campaign that he some how? Systematically broke down and demoralized Wladimir Kiltschko! 'Time and time again we see certain boxing fans online and certain sections of the media, who just keep drumming this form of operate conditioning into our minds that? His performance up against Waldimir Kiltschko was some sort of Floyd Mayweather type master class! 'But in reality it was a good performance, but not some sort of masterclass'.....but fairplay to him, as he got the job done!

Wladimir Kiltscko was not beaten up or deterred at any point in their fight 'Tyson Fury won the fight, but his performance from a technical perspective was overrated in my opinion'.

Tyson Fury is not the number 1 heavyweight, on achievements or Curriculum vitae! Anthony Joshua is the number 1 heavyweight when you value world championship belts and performances.

I would probably have Tyson Fury at number 2 right about now, and I am well aware that his comeback is still going through a process.
Who gives a **** about AJ beating Martin and picking up a couple of vacant belts those are Tysons belts in most people eyes

AJ stock is plummeting and they know this he seems like a 3rd wheel at this point
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