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Old 11-04-2019, 03:25 PM #11
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Has Marquez beaten any good boxers, or does he just beat the come face forward type like the baby bulls and Katsidis? He lost to Chris John, Freddie Norwood, Mayweather, Bradley, but has he beaten anyone on his resume that doesn't play into his punching bag/easy to counter type guys?
he put manny to sleep
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:37 PM #12
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Rocky Juarez was a good boxer & so was Joel Casamayor.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:39 PM #13
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My question to you would be, What elite level fighter did canelo face (when they werent old, washed up and different fighters)

Cotto (35 years old) had already been in many wars, in never was same after the Margarito fight.

Kovalev (36 years old) Old, washed up, maybe has 1 fight in him left, he may retire now, who knows.

GGG (37 years old) old, alot slower, slow reflexes, due to his age. They intentionally waited GGG out.

Mosley (41 years old) 41 years old speaks for itself.

He was schooled and walked down at times against a 36 year old smaller guy, Floyd Mayweather.

He lost to Lara.

Like Cmon now, If anything Canelo has the most controversial cherrypicked resume in boxing right now.
Stop it, Nelo beat Pvssy-G twice & ya'll started that "he's old" excuse when Jacobs beat Pvssy-G.

Nelo ALSO beat Lara. He had Lara on his bike when them body shots were hitting him
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:51 PM #14
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Stop it, Nelo beat Pvssy-G twice & ya'll started that "he's old" excuse when Jacobs beat Pvssy-G.

Nelo ALSO beat Lara. He had Lara on his bike when them body shots were hitting him
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Not exactly, Im not even a big GGG fan, I can care less about him. The last GGG fight I think he looked good was against David Lemieux.Dominic wade was a bum, he didnt look impressive against kell brook, in fact kell brook hurt him. by time the Jacobs fight happened it really confirmed what we thought, and that was that GGG was no longer at his peak. So then Canelo fights him, 1st fight GGG won, 2nd fight Canelo beat the ***** out of the old man.

Lara outboxed him for 12rds straight, canelo missing widly the entire fight, and looking desperate and one demenional.
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Old 11-04-2019, 03:53 PM #15
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Joel Casamayor, Rocky Juarez, Orlando Salido, Manuel Madina and Derrick Gainer are all good/great, boxers/ boxer punchers.

Pac Man isn't exactly the easiest "come forward guy" to counter either, the prime version of Pac that Marquez went to battle with had some of the most complex footwork and body/head movement you'll see in boxing, combine with his non stop pressure. I mean, the man is still boxing at a high level in his 40s despite fighting world class level oppositions for around decades now, he wasn't very easy to hit.

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Old 11-04-2019, 07:19 PM #16
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My question to you would be, What elite level fighter did canelo face (when they werent old, washed up and different fighters)

Cotto (35 years old) had already been in many wars, in never was same after the Margarito fight.

Kovalev (36 years old) Old, washed up, maybe has 1 fight in him left, he may retire now, who knows.

GGG (37 years old) old, alot slower, slow reflexes, due to his age. They intentionally waited GGG out.

Mosley (41 years old) 41 years old speaks for itself.

He was schooled and walked down at times against a 36 year old smaller guy, Floyd Mayweather.

He lost to Lara.

Like Cmon now, If anything Canelo has the most controversial cherrypicked resume in boxing right now.
What does Canelo have anything to do with this? This isn't a Canelo thread? Is the topic Marquez or Canelo? Why did you mention Canelo's name?

But since you mentioned Cotto as part of your "elite" list, Canelo did beat Trout, who did beat Cotto, and per your list, if Trout beat an "elite" Cotto, then Trout should be considered "elite" as well, but again, this isn't about Canelo, it's about Marquez.
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:19 PM #17
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he put manny to sleep
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So Manny is considered an good/great boxer to you? Cool.
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:25 PM #18
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1. Manny Pacqiaou
2. Marco Antonio Barrera
3. (Prime) Orlando Salido
4. Joel Casamayor
5. Juan Diaz
6. Mike Alvarado

Split Decision and WAR with Timothy Bradley.

Canelo has never been in the ring with the level of talent that marquez opposition has possessed.
Mayweather?????????
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:27 PM #19
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Mayweather?????????
Yeah that worked out well for him. I don't think he even won a single round.
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