Did Golovkin really tie Hopkins' title fight streak?

[KTFOKING]

No, his regular WBA title reign was included as title defenses when it shouldn't have.

[Citizen Koba]

nope. Boxing has never acknowledged the defense streak of secondary belts...until the media suddenly did so in a unprecedented move to inflate GGG's career. He won a vacate Interim belt that was later promoted to the WBA regular belt beneath the true WBA champion. He then defended that BS for years. It wasn't until 4 years later that he won the true WBA champ over Geale. His real streak started the fight after that against Rubio and even if you count the clown Vanes fight and Brook fight (both fights in which 1 or more of the belt orgs said it was a mismatch and refused to sanction the fight) the grand total of defenses would be a unimpressive 9 no where near the record which was 20.

That's patently untrue. The WBA and the media have always counted the 'regular' title - well before GGG came along. Check Sturms defense record for instance. Your weird obsession with GGG is causing you to see conspiracies where there ain't any. This is 100% the WBAs doing and they're the ones who somehow saw fit to double up the title - and not because they were trying to turn Golovkin into some kind of star (no one gave a fuck about him at the time), but because they wanted to keep Sturm as a champion.

[bigdunny1]

That's patently untrue. The WBA and the media have always counted the 'regular' title - well before GGG came along. Check Sturms defense record for instance. Your weird obsession with GGG is causing you to see conspiracies where there ain't any.

They counted it when there was no presence of a super champ ie there is ONLY 1 champ. But when they had a super champ they have never counted the regular defenses. Just like nobody counts or reports international title defense records, or regional title defense records. GGG is the first time in history that we have ever seen 2 champs his entire reign of the jr title and then tack that on when he finally became the true champ and pawn it off like a true record let alone a coordinated effort to mislead the public like the media did.

[Larry the boss]

No, And Hopkins never matched Monzon's record

[Larry the boss]

That's patently untrue. The WBA and the media have always counted the 'regular' title - well before GGG came along. Check Sturms defense record for instance. Your weird obsession with GGG is causing you to see conspiracies where there ain't any. This is 100% the WBAs doing and they're the ones who somehow saw fit to double up the title - and not because they were trying to turn Golovkin into some kind of star (no one gave a fuck about him at the time), but because they wanted to keep Sturm as a champion.

Sturm was the WBA champion when he was defending it..there was no "super" champion..GGG was not the real WBA champ, Sturm was

[bigdunny1]

the Vanes fight shouldnt even count

yup you end up with a whole can of worms because if we accept the premise that his defense streak started with the WBA title lineage then you can't include his Brook fight which was so bad that the WBA refused to sanction it and that belt was NOT on the line for the Brook fight because they didn't feel he was worth of an opponent. Similar to the Vanes fight where the IBF refused to sanction it because they deemed Vanes not worthy an opponent. From top to bottom the entire defense record is a sham. It really should be 9 and only 8 or 7 if you don't include Brook or Vanes fights.

[b00g13man]

He didn't. The integrity lacking media helped fuel that nonsense.

[GhostofDempsey]

He actually broke the record if you take robberies into account.

[Citizen Koba]

They counted it when there was no presence of a super champ. But when they had a super champ they have never counted the regular defenses. Just like nobody counts or reports international title defense records, or regional title defense records. GGG is the first time in history that we have ever seen 2 champs his entire reign of the jr title and then tack that on when he finally became the true champ and pawn it off like a true record let alone a coordinated effort to mislead the public like the media did.

I think there was very few occasions where a regular champ made more than 1 or 2 defenses whilst there was an existing 'super' though on the record those defense are counted (Braehmer had a few, Girard the other Sturm mess at SMW) regardless - these guys were all counted by the WBA as champions with defenses. It's just that no-one gave a **** until the record started showing GGG closing on Hopkins numbers. Honestly it would never have happened if the WBA hadn't taken the 'unprecedented' step of changing their own rules to allow Sturm to be elevated to Super status instead of fighting his mandatory Initially the WBA 'super' champion had just been a special designation for WBA champions who were also unified Champions, but they started doubling up fairly early on...

[bigdunny1]

I think there was very few occasions where a regular champ made more than 1 or 2 defenses whilst there was an existing 'super' though on the record those defense are counted (Braehmer had a few, Girard the other Sturm mess at SMW) regardless - these guys were all counted by the WBA as champions with defenses. It's just that no-one gave a **** until the record started showing GGG closing on Hopkins numbers. Honestly it would never have happened if the WBA hadn't taken the 'unprecedented' step of changing their own rules to allow Sturm to be elevated to Super status instead of fighting his mandatory Initially the WBA 'super' champion had just been a special designation for WBA champions who were also unified Champions, but they started doubling up fairly early on...

no this about the media. Belt orgs do stupid shyt crooked shyt even and the media ignores or calls them out. The WBA didn't want to advertise this BS the media started doing it to prop GGG. And media member like for example even fat boy dan makes a point to demean the WBA and their regular/super belts all the time and mocks the regular belt holder any chance he gets. Yet in the millions of articles and reporting he's done on GGG over the years he NEVER mentions to the public hey this record is garbage he held the jr bs belt while they had a real champion for 4 years more more then half the defenses are bogus ect ect. Fat boy dan never says a peep and many other members knew this record was bogus and pawned it to inflate GGG's career. It's unprecedented I can't find a single example of this ever happening in boxing. The media has always ignored defense records for secondary belts...ALWAYS. They aren't mentioned or reported on...UNTIL they suddenly did for GGG.