CANELO ALVAREZ is STEALING GOLOVKIN'S AURA...OWNING PBC lineup

[Lester Tutor]

Spence is the only pbc guy oscar will let canelo fight anyway. he didnt want canelo fighting lara the first time. remember? Schaefer made the deal

we will never see canelo vs a charlo. that's why he is gonna vacate all of the belts if he wins the ggg rematch. he will keep the one with the weakest mandatory. wba most likely.

canelo isnt gonna fight half of those names.

its gonna be ggg then saunders in september then a whole lot of side stepping the jacobs,charlo, and andrades of the world

but you're advocating my sattire. I like Charlo, Jacobs, Andrade, Lara etc... you're building those name around Canelo to hype him even more... that's cool, if that's where those fights need to be.

But I'm on the real. Why nobody talks about Andrade punking the Charlo bros. at the pressers and suddenly Charlo moves up not so long after, with then Andrade also moving up and signing a 3 fight deal with HBO.

Looks like Drade is the unsung hero in the Charlo narrative. That beef is real. Don't you want to see Charlo vs Andrade? Or do we as fans rinse the cliche narratives again about opposing networks? Whether it's Drade or Charlo fighting Alvarez, it's rather sad if fans don't hype up their original beef that Drade yet still continues to get frustrated to only bring up Charlo yet again later on, you'll see, with Jermall acting smug ignoring all that..

Ironicaly, speaking of ducking and dodging, imho, one Charlo vacated so Haymon wouldn't be pressured that the 154 Champions aren't fighting each other or the conflict of interest from the Shield camp, even though Jermell left camp a while back, which is why the fight with Lara MIGHT get done. Most PBC fighters ACT really cool to keep friendship and rivalry non awkward.

We already know the Alvarez and the WBC have beef, so the Charlo mando is stupid to begin with. Charlo has a better chance reaching in the other orgs to face Nelo than to bring up the WBC gossip. That causes problems for Haymon advisory. Heilland and Trout aren't top tiers to hold Jermall at 160 anyways. If anything Drade is the real threat handling a BIGASS Foxx.

If Spence were to hypothetically move to 160, would Alvarez only be the name he suggests to want to fight? hence the thread title

[bluebeam]

but you're advocating my sattire. I like Charlo, Jacobs, Andrade, Lara etc... you're building those name around Canelo to hype him even more... that's cool, if that's where those fights need to be.

But I'm on the real. Why nobody talks about Andrade punking the Charlo bros. at the pressers and suddenly Charlo moves up not so long after, with then Andrade also moving up and signing a 3 fight deal with HBO.

Looks like Drade is the unsung hero in the Charlo narrative. That beef is real. Don't you want to see Charlo vs Andrade? Or do we as fans rinse the cliche narratives again about opposing networks? Whether it's Drade or Charlo fighting Alvarez, it's rather sad if fans don't hype up their original beef that Drade yet still continues to get frustrated to only bring up Charlo yet again later on, you'll see, with Jermall acting smug ignoring all that..

Ironicaly, speaking of ducking and dodging, imho, one Charlo vacated so Haymon wouldn't be pressured that the 154 Champions aren't fighting each other or the conflict of interest from the Shield camp, even though Jermell left camp a while back, which is why the fight with Lara MIGHT get done. Most PBC fighters ACT really cool to keep friendship and rivalry non awkward.

We already know the Alvarez and the WBC have beef, so the Charlo mando is stupid to begin with. Charlo has a better chance reaching in the other orgs to face Nelo than to bring up the WBC gossip. That causes problems for Haymon advisory. Heilland and Trout aren't top tiers to hold Jermall at 160 anyways. If anything Drade is the real threat handling a BIGASS Foxx.

If Spence were to hypothetically move to 160, would Alvarez only be the name he suggests to want to fight? hence the thread title

to answer your question. yes I want to see andrade vs either charlo, but im a realist and if they didnt fight when they were both fighting on showtime, then whats the point of talking about them fighting now that andrade has a 3 fight deal on hbo?

canelo, ggg, andrade, jacobs, and Billy joe all fight on the hbo side so those are the guys canelo/golovkin winner have to deal with. i bring up charlo ,murata, and sergiy because they are the mandatories so canelo/ggg winner is obligated to fight them.

its all simple mathematics bro.


and of course canelo is the only fight Spence would go to 160 for. it's the biggest fight possible financially for him. any other 160 would bring what he is already making at 147

[BoxingTech718]

So now Spence seems to be the TEXAN, THE REPLACEMENT, for Jermall CHARLO.

Ironically, the missing link is ERISLANDY LARA.

How long will LARA hold his cards for HAYMON and the PBC roundtable surrounding Canelo Alvarez for his rematch shot?

Trout - Texan
Spence - Texan
Charlos - Texan

LARA already said he'll fight a Charlo, that Shield won't get in the way...and vise versa for Jermell.

How come PBC fans aren't demanding Spence vs Charlo or Spence vs LARA?

BLACK-NELO 2.0 running tingz! FLOYD-TORCH stylee

Because maybe Spence is a welterweight and the other two are middleweights.
How about Spence clean out his division before talking about moving up?
Spence should be trying to collect all the belts at WW.
There are plenty of WW fights available.
Spence

[icha]

The diva sign the contract yet?

no, he is still in kazakhstan yet...

[icha]

Spence is the only pbc guy oscar will let canelo fight anyway. he didnt want canelo fighting lara the first time. remember? Schaefer made the deal

we will never see canelo vs a charlo. that's why he is gonna vacate all of the belts if he wins the ggg rematch. he will keep the one with the weakest mandatory. wba most likely.

canelo isnt gonna fight half of those names.

its gonna be ggg then saunders in september then a whole lot of side stepping the jacobs,charlo, and andrades of the world

he shouldnt have to, they should also fight each other, then you will have to remove the losers from that list then, if they arent willing to fight each other then why should canelo be entitled to fight them all?? and dont even bother with mandatory crap, canelo will fight whoever he wants and will not let organizations dictate who he fights next, im not saying is right, but thats the way it is, so lets be realist about it..

[bluebeam]

he shouldnt have to, they should also fight each other, then you will have to remove the losers from that list then, if they arent willing to fight each other then why should canelo be entitled to fight them all?? and dont even bother with mandatory crap, canelo will fight whoever he wants and will not let organizations dictate who he fights next, im not saying is right, but thats the way it is, so lets be realist about it..

not only are they the mandatories, they are the best opponents at 160. so why wouldn't he fight them all?

charlo wbc
sergiy ibf
murata wba
saunders wbo champ

andrade
jacobs

that's 6 of the top 10 at 160 and 3 of the 6 are mandatory.

so tell me why would they fight each other when they are guaranteed a shot at those belts which canelo or golovkin will hold after may 5?

you say he won't be dictated too by the organizations. ok cool. so who else can he fight? answer that question for me please. anybody thats not 1 of those 6 is a clear cherry pick. and he will be called out on it.

face it, canelo/golovkin winner has no where to run.

he can be a champion and clean out a loaded 160. or vacate and side step all real challenges like he been doing for the last 3 years

the Kirkland,smith khan,chavez days are over. that's 4 of his last 6 opponents.

its all dogs from here on out.

and all those dogs except 2 are on hbo side of the street. ggg/canelo winner has no excuses. 2018 is about to separate the greats from the pretenders in every divison

[icha]

not only are they the mandatories, they are the best opponents at 160. so why wouldn't he fight them all?

charlo wbc
sergiy ibf
murata wba
saunders wbo champ

andrade
jacobs

that's 6 of the top 10 at 160 and 3 of the 6 are mandatory.

so tell me why would they fight each other when they are guaranteed a shot at those belts which canelo or golovkin will hold after may 5?

you say he won't be dictated too by the organizations. ok cool. so who else can he fight? answer that question for me please. anybody thats not 1 of those 6 is a clear cherry pick. and he will be called out on it.

face it, canelo/golovkin winner has no where to run.

he can be a champion and clean out a loaded 160. or vacate and side step all real challenges like he been doing for the last 3 years

the Kirkland,smith khan,chavez days are over. that's 4 of his last 6 opponents.

its all dogs from here on out.

and all those dogs except 2 are on hbo side of the street. ggg/canelo winner has no excuses. 2018 is about to separate the greats from the pretenders in every divison

he doesnt have to beat them all to clean 160, they should also fight each other and then claim for a canelo fight, if charlo beats andrade then canelo needs to go for charlo and scratch andrade off the list...
he fought trout when he wasnt his mandatory, he fought lara when he wasnt his mandatory, he fought ggg when he wasnt his mandatory anymore, that should tell you that he makes the fights happen on his timeline, i have a hard time remembering when was the last time he fought his mandatory and i dont see that changing now that he doesnt need titles to sell fights or gain leverage..