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Can GGG lure Floyd to fight him with a Hagler Vs Leonard sales pitch?

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  • Can GGG lure Floyd to fight him with a Hagler Vs Leonard sales pitch?

    If GGG unifies all the belts this year after canelo gets stripped and he defeats the last remaining Title holder, can he entice Floyd to fight for all the Middleweight Title straps, including Floyd's favorite, the green WBC belt since he does seem to have a WBC fetish.

    I'm thinking he is gonna step up his attempts to call Floyd out, Amir Khan style.

    He is outgrowing the division and why not call him out prior to permanently leaving for 168.

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    Can't be Leonard style. Leonard's first title win was at WW, he was 5' 10" and 160 was his 3rd weight class, he fought as high as 168.

    Mayweather's first title win was at 130, and Mayweather has almost as many fights below 147lbs as SRL had wins in his entire career (33 fights for Floyd, 36 wins for SRL).

    Floyd also had more title fights (14) below 147 than SRL had in his entire career (13).

    Floyd is too small, and the risk is too much for too little in form of legacy, who he gets on his resume, who the person beat or what the person did. If he beats GGG, GGG will be picked apart by the same journalists and fans who love him, they would ask why did he lose to such a small, old,past it man. They'll say he had no one on his resume and wasn't ready for Floyd. If GGG wins, he did what he had to do against a retired, past it, small 40 year old Floyd and it would be overblown by some of his rabid fans, they'll say he beat an ATG and that Floyd has been exposed.

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    • #3
      Just cos u can pick nelo apart u cant do that for GGG. Nelo wasn't a top 10 PFP guy in most peoples eyes when he fought floydy. Nelo never beat anyone of note, but more importantly never really looked grea doing itFor instance he shoulfpd have been stopping SSM old boys, yoiu k ow GGG would.
      Nelo never stopped anyone any good or outpointed anyone any good convincingly. Even Floyd's biggest fans knoiw he'd get credit.

      Floyd should have fought for a 160 title years ago. Shame people asking him to do it against GGG, rather than sergio. His cherry picking don't always go according to plan
      Last edited by hugh grant; 04-23-2016, 05:18 PM.

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      • #4
        What does a win over a 38 year old WW do for GGG? Even if that WW is Floyd Mayweather.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          Can't be Leonard style. Leonard's first title win was at WW, he was 5' 10" and 160 was his 3rd weight class, he fought as high as 168.

          Mayweather's first title win was at 130, and Mayweather has almost as many fights below 147lbs as SRL had wins in his entire career (33 fights for Floyd, 36 wins for SRL).

          Floyd also had more title fights (14) below 147 than SRL had in his entire career (13).

          Floyd is too small, and the risk is too much for too little in form of legacy, who he gets on his resume, who the person beat or what the person did. If he beats GGG, GGG will be picked apart by the same journalists and fans who love him, they would ask why did he lose to such a small, old,past it man. They'll say he had no one on his resume and wasn't ready for Floyd. If GGG wins, he did what he had to do against a retired, past it, small 40 year old Floyd and it would be overblown by some of his rabid fans, they'll say he beat an ATG and that Floyd has been exposed.
          Blah!

          you're missing the point. For this particular topic, we don't care what Floyd is or isn't, thus no need to go into details of his history. I'm primarily focusing on GGG's selling pitching to try and entice/bait Floyd into fighting him.

          So the Leonard/Hagler reference is me conveying a selling pitch for GGG. He being the Undisputed Middleweight Champ, holding all the belts and a raising star status, giving him some clout into calling out Floyd and gunning for that payday, if he plays it right.

          By making an appeal to history -- Floyd just might bite and come out of retirement.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
            What does a win over a 38 year old WW do for GGG? Even if that WW is Floyd Mayweather.
            Answer: Nothing

            It gets him paid. Which is why I'm assuming he is calling out Floyd in the most recent article "If i'm easy work, then fight me". Just like they all want to secure a payday against a smaller, less threatening fighter -- From Ward on down.

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            • #7
              see this is something all you people do not take into consideration. FLOYD REALLY DONT CARE lol.

              He doesnt care about being truly great, he want to achieve something he can point at and say "thats why I am great".

              You think he is after marciano record for any other reason other than its the most attainable one for him?

              Floyd a great fighter just somewhere along the line he turned less fighter and more safety first.

              think about this, for floyd to accomplish what pacquaio did he would have to go to MW and win a title cause pacquaio did the equivelent.

              #BOXINGLEARNIT

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              • #8
                Maybe if Floyd was as good as Bernard was at 38 and was still good at fighting while moving forward. Its done, Floyd is retired and i don't see any incentive on him fighting anymore unless its someone like Danny.

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                • #9
                  No..Floyd is a 39 year old who moved up 3 divisions to get to 147 ..not even close to the same

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                  • #10
                    Floyd ain't coming back for less than $100 million. The only two fighters who can generate that type of money is Pacquiao and Canelo.

                    He's almost 40 years old. He's won titles in 5 different weight classes. He's generated billions of dollars for the sport. More people have paid to watch him fight than any other fighter in history. He's kept boxing at the relevant. He retired undefeated. Why should he come back to give a guy a payday who hasn't accomplished 1/10 of what Floyd has? And a guy who isn't connected to PBC or Mayweather Promotions. Floyd's legacy is set. Why should he try to help GGG's legacy?

                    GGG has never had to take a risk to be great. But Floyd gave him a risk to take in order to fight him. Beat Andre Ward and Floyd will give him a fight. GGG knows this. So until GGG takes the Ward fight it's pointless for him or us to keep discussing this.

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